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Droege, Sam
There, an Irish sharing the office today, which means that one or the other of us can't have our speaker slash mic on. So she has told me that she has nothing to report.

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Droege, Sam
Alright, the no part was no class next week because we have guests that we're gonna be working with. Intensely. Yeah, that's it. OK. So we we're going through varieties last.

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Droege, Sam
And you should have mikes varieties key up.

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Droege, Sam
OK so.

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Droege, Sam
It is in the meals the females were mystified by. So when you're looking at this, this angle, and this is an absolutely oblique to the OR absolutely straight down at right angles to the that be oblique, no, this is obtuse and in very low statistics going to be roughly 90 degree, maybe even acute. And I've got that species too. Additionally from what I've noticed and I'd be curious whether you think of this.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
One is, to me, one is dull and one is pointed, you know.

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Droege, Sam
So.

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Droege, Sam
Yeah. And if you don't have that all you know.

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Droege, Sam
Yeah, it. Yeah, if you, if you really wanna get down there or you can just leave it as this. You know, one of two species. OK, let me get to.

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Droege, Sam
Uh, say 200%.

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Droege, Sam
This cressoni down here. Do you wanna talk about at the mail? You talk about a tubercle.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Uh, when I say convex, it's going gently. There's no pronounced peak or anything. It's just kind of a gentle rise and fall with crustini as one is more as a more.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
And then the other thing is OK and the other thing is the labrum. And again, it's not always easy to see the labrum, but.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Yeah, unless there's a lot of regurgitant or something like that. Yeah, I think you can. You have to crank up the mag and look a little hard. But, yeah, I think you can tell that they're in one case, the guy. There's nothing there.

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Droege, Sam
Yeah.

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Droege, Sam
Yep.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Umm.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
I think they're they're more conspicuous to me in the mail, but they're they're they're in both sexes.

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Droege, Sam
Umm. If there's no other questions about Harriet dies will go to Chellaston a now.

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Droege, Sam
Any tubercles on carinata?

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Droege, Sam
I've never looked.

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Droege, Sam
OK, something to for everyone to investigate and report back.

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Droege, Sam
The this ratio between tegular and length of skewed Dum.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Well, you know the the it's got a dorsal component to the.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Yeah.

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Droege, Sam
OK. And so yeah, we have one native and two introduced the native just this is a mystery that Mike and I have talked about before. So the native species is always in collections and just in general talk.

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Droege, Sam
Philadelphia in a trap or randomly? I don't even. I don't have associations with any particular species out in the middle of nowhere. It's like there is no mock orange near here and there is native Philadelphus. However, there in Mid-Atlantic area, they're very rare, associated with the mountains. Not here anywhere. So.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Yeah, in the Midwest, I've collected them from blackberries, from hydrophyllum, from IO dantis I mean a bunch of native plants and miles and miles from any Philadelphia. As far as we know. And even later after Philadelphus is out of bloom.

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Droege, Sam
Yeah.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
And yeah, I I. But you know, I may be imagining it. It's so subtle that.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
You bet.

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Droege, Sam
Mm-hmm.

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Droege, Sam
And there's actually a a structure above that that is tells information about them. So here's Republi and it's hard to tell. You can't see it as bigger but, but the head shape is quite different and we'll.

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Droege, Sam
Probably refer back to this as we go into the the guides, but let's flip to mikes guide here.

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Droege, Sam
And I will let you introduce it and output in under the microscope.

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Droege, Sam
So go ahead while I play around here.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
So the the two introduced species are punctuality and campaigned elerium and they they've been. I think they were first found on in New York around East Coast, back in the late 60s, maybe a little later than that.

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Droege, Sam
There's the head. I think that the classic, which I think I got from the.

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Droege, Sam
So I don't know if people heard that, but Laura mentioned and can I assume this is in the chat that ballast was often dumped?

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Droege, Sam
Mandible length compared to the length of the eye.

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Droege, Sam
So OK, so we have long versus shorter mandibles. And if we go back to our.

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Droege, Sam
Look at that right there and you can see it all the way into the back to so cool.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
And presumably that's what the the bees are using, but I don't know. I'm not aware of any.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
House plan data on either of these in the US, so I mean, I think most most of the ones I've seen are in bowls. And so I don't know about you. You've got to wonder what they're using actually, so.

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Droege, Sam
Uh hosting different bees.

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Droege, Sam
Uh in Philadelphia, so I don't, I don't think so. For we don't have any records, for example, for either for Maryland and I my impression is that they were identified originally in upstate New York.

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Droege, Sam
Mm-hmm.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Pretty thorough, and neither of those showed up in the in the Twin Cities which caught it.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Yeah. We'll look at Anthony, Amanda, Cadum and and some of them just explode across the landscape. Now, there's don't.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Yeah, our near right are very close to the tent, and I mean that's that's not a little tiny thing. It's it, you know, it's.

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Droege, Sam
OK.

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Droege, Sam
OK. I let me just, I'm looking at my other scope here and I may be able to show that.

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Droege, Sam
It's almost like a pretty big, big built out projection.

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Droege, Sam
OK, let's try and get that.

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Droege, Sam
Yeah, there's so much in the national collection. That's one of our.

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Droege, Sam
Next.

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Droege, Sam
So I think it will be a good comparison. It's it's different from a lot of other modern comparisons where you're comparing old timers information.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Or. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah.

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Droege, Sam
OK.

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Droege, Sam
Can you point?

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Droege, Sam
And I'm going to see if I can change this a little bit and get.

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Droege, Sam
So again, we're looking.

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Droege, Sam
Here.

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Droege, Sam
Tricky to focus this thing today.

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Droege, Sam
We've got a response back from Laura that we found, OK.

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Droege, Sam
So this is the area right there. We won't spend a whole lot more time, it's just lagging too much and the tongue is partially in the way. So we'll stop.

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Droege, Sam
And I'm going to change the light back to something reasonable.

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Droege, Sam
Umm.

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Droege, Sam
Can't even tell when I'm doing it right now. There we go. There we go. Stop.

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Droege, Sam
OK, so it does similar to her 80s often have a bit of a curl to the rear end, but not as bad, but kind of my impression.

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Droege, Sam
Yeah.

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Droege, Sam
So we could add a little more light, but you can see one on these are the lateral. Here's the two central ones.

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Droege, Sam
That a little bit better in focus.

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Droege, Sam
I guess I don't have one of the species that bidentate one, but here we have the Philadelphia.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
And it's the lateral parts are just there's nothing sticking out. It just smooth. Yeah. The other thing we hadn't mentioned is companion Lerum is tiny like some Philadelphia. So size wise those two can overload be very similar whereas we're popular is almost all the ones I've ever seen here notably bigger than either of those two.

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Droege, Sam
So you have here and republi you have the occipital Carina.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Yeah, they're pretty.

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Droege, Sam
Quite distinct.

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Droege, Sam
And has the has the at least prongs in the central area. You can tell the two other species apart by the differences in the.

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Droege, Sam
Post this.

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Droege, Sam
Have you been able to determine whether the European?

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Oh, that's interesting.

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Droege, Sam
Umm I layus Jason documented it.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Nope. You know, the other two leptocephalus and you know the other.

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Droege, Sam
Yeah.

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Droege, Sam
Yeah, we had a big jump down to like one got picked up in Richmond. So I have a feeling that in garden stock pithy stems, who knows what that it's gonna get transported all over the place.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Yeah.

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Droege, Sam
OK. So, uh, do we have a next group clear on dock ohm? Why didn't we say?

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Droege, Sam
I forget where we are with the Megan Friday.

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Droege, Sam
Which is not. There's not a lot that I have of material, but I can track something now. It should be talked about. Yeah. Do we get?

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Robert.

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Droege, Sam
Will nest in firewood.

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Droege, Sam
As the you know, Virginia Carpenter bee. But if it's relatively soft wood, it can go into it. So they had a problem with on the shores of Delaware River, I believe on some historic structures that were timber frame including.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Uh-huh.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Dirt common over.

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Droege, Sam
But I don't know what its limits are. Well, Speaking of West, our friend Mary Busby, or.

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Droege, Sam
It's documented that this House had basically all the exterior siding and the porch have been destroyed by I guess a I don't wanna call it a colony, but at least an aggregation of the species. And there was three inches of sawdust on the porch.

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Droege, Sam
Well, anything else, Mike?

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Droege, Sam
I don't. I don't remember doing eyes Mia.

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Mike Arduser (Guest)
Right.

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Droege, Sam
And how so you don't apply this. And yeah, OK, I guess we have.

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Hongmei Li-Byarlay
Can you hear me?

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Hongmei Li-Byarlay
Yeah, so I try to click on the recording. In the past it.

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Droege, Sam
Yeah. So.

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Droege, Sam
I think in the chat. OK. Yeah, it's OK JA R and if you do car and bees or car and mafia or or drogi, it should jump right over there.

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Hongmei Li-Byarlay
OK. Well, I'll follow up with Claire then. Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much.