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Maffei, Clare J
The recording has started. The only announcement I have is that there will be
no class next week.
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Maffei, Clare J
Because I will not be available any other announcements.
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Maffei, Clare J
No. OK.
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Droege, Sam
Without without clear, we are nothing.
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Maffei, Clare J
Ohh wow, that's that's impressive.
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Droege, Sam
Yeah.
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Maffei, Clare J
With that, let's move on to some celiacs males.
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Droege, Sam
Alright, so we'll continue where we left off. We just got an introduction to
the general characteristics of celiacs males and we'll just start going through
species and looking at characters at the same time up on deck is.
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Droege, Sam
In a minute I was trying to share, but I clicked off the mic.
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Droege, Sam
Is Celiac's coturnix and let me make sure I share.
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Droege, Sam
Properly.
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Droege, Sam
Umm.
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Droege, Sam
Why is it there? We go. OK, so here. So, Dave Smith, I think it was Dave Smith
last time suggested, you know what your pictures are better than the stuff we
can see on the microscope. So we'll use pictures when we have them because
these absolutely right. And then we will switch to the.
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Droege, Sam
Mexico, when we need to see something specific.
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Droege, Sam
Thank you, Dave. Alright, so the thing about Coturnix is that it is a
introduced species. The only introduced Celaya, Oxis, and it is a nest parasite
of at minimum Mega Kylie Roton data but could also be of the concinna group and
also apicalis. We don't know, it is still spreading, it's largely in the
Mid-Atlantic states.
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Droege, Sam
And the first found in Maryland, first record in the 2000s, I think by John
Asher. And then I think we found it earlier, one along the Anacostia. So it
hangs out where maybe Kelly wrote Undata hangs out and should be looked for
anywhere that magically Rotunda data exists and cause it can easily probably
jump like make it Kelly Roton data and it's ilk does via transport.
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Droege, Sam
Love.
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Droege, Sam
Stems and holes in things that have nests, so.
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Droege, Sam
The mean, First off the the A kind of primary identification as it is smaller
than all the other.
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Droege, Sam
Celiac axis, because it is an this parasite of the smallest group of.
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Droege, Sam
Mega Kylie, which are all introduced by the way, and so you're looking at a
tiny bead about the size of Mexicali. Roton dot up. You're also looking at
something that presents very white, so it's a different kind of celiac axis in
a lot of ways. So if you look at this picture, Claire, tell me if we can't see
that what we're looking at.
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Maffei, Clare J
It's looking good.
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Droege, Sam
OK. And I can't really have a pointer. I can only have the magnifying glass
here, but let me change the size, maybe that will help.
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Droege, Sam
Of the.
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Droege, Sam
Mouse oops.
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Droege, Sam
Barney.
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Droege, Sam
Where did they go?
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Droege, Sam
Let me try that again.
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Droege, Sam
Change mouse pointer size.
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Droege, Sam
Hmm.
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Droege, Sam
Nope.
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Droege, Sam
Here we go.
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Droege, Sam
OK, that now is.
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Droege, Sam
Our bigger size and we're back here, OK, at least we can use the magnification
glass to point and moves the moves. A picture around too at the same time. So
these bright white scales are very noticeable and very different from the other
species they have instead of the scale like hair, they're presenting basically
bands of hair. So more like the hairs that you see here. These scales are
unique additionally.
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Droege, Sam
The rear end and the mails is was we're looking at today is very.
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Droege, Sam
Uh, pokey and pointy so you can see here. We can see this in the microscope. 2
those tips are almost spine like and they're pitted all the way out to the end.
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Droege, Sam
If we look at a couple other pictures here that we have, you can see that this
white shows up quite a bit on the sides, even more so than on top. So it
presents as a very white looking celiac axis. Two in addition to be mirroring
small. Here's the female. A lot of I'll just talk about the females since we
didn't have these pictures available last time. Lots of red on a lot of the
specimens. Interesting because it'll probably was only introduced by one
species, but it shows up.
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Droege, Sam
Read in a bunch of different specimens that we've seen so far, so everyone
should expect to see this species at some point. It'll be interesting to watch
the progression of.
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Droege, Sam
Specimens that come in.
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Droege, Sam
Uh, so those are the primary characters. Let's switch to the.
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Droege, Sam
The microscope and you can see because we almost always look at the if anyone
wants a close up of anything that we are talking about on the pictures, we will
we can do that.
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Droege, Sam
But I'm going to show the underside again, the underside we almost never take
pictures of the underside, but the underside is where a lot of action is in.
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Droege, Sam
Umm comparisons that you would make.
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Droege, Sam
Between more than one species.
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Droege, Sam
Thing that you have like, am I looking at the same species or not? A lot of
times it's useful to look on the underside and often you will find.
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Droege, Sam
Characters that aren't necessarily in the guides.
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Droege, Sam
But the presentation is.
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Droege, Sam
Different and be like ohh clearly these are different. I'm here. There's some
you know the architecture of this rim which is I think S5 and S6 often is quite
different. I'm gonna try and magnify this a little bit more.
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Droege, Sam
And you can see.
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Droege, Sam
It doesn't. Doesn't show super well under the microscope, but for example this
which is S6. I believe you can see there's two rims. There's this double rim
thing going on.
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Droege, Sam
And.
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Droege, Sam
The sclerotized.
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Droege, Sam
Or darker rim the lower one. See this one has a notch out of it, and then the
upper one is slightly disguised by some book. Fair. That's more Amber and
transparent, so I can't tell you whether the the Amber Rim has a notch out or
not, but the shape concave convex notch, not notched. Sometimes there's little
spines on the sides. Is a useful feature, and those are in the guides.
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Droege, Sam
And a lot of times they're visible because.
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Droege, Sam
We oxis.
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Droege, Sam
Tend to lay their bodies out flat instead of like osmia. Same family likes to
curl things up, so here we're looking from the underside at.
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Droege, Sam
You see at least spine like.
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Droege, Sam
Spines. I guess they might be spines.
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Droege, Sam
At the end of T7 on on the species, so all the celiac axis have this. They look
different, they're very difficult to describe. So that independent of a picture
or comparative information, you can tell them apart. But again, another place
to look if you have more than one and you're comparing as.
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Droege, Sam
Should be the case.
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Droege, Sam
Your specimen to known specimens and wondering whether you keep it out
correctly.
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Droege, Sam
OK, where you have a new species? So that's coturnix.
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Droege, Sam
Magical little thing. Invasive species.
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Droege, Sam
More of which is going to be coming our way.
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Droege, Sam
So.
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Droege, Sam
We'll jump down to germanna. So Germanna is a.
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Droege, Sam
And the species that is.
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Droege, Sam
And this parasite of.
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Droege, Sam
Petulance and in keeping with our new photography point of view, let's see if I
can find a specimen of that and you can do this too. This, I'm just going on to
Flickr. This is our repository and we slowly increment that. So we are looking
for germana.
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Droege, Sam
Whoops.
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Droege, Sam
You can search our directory, it's set up to do that now.
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Droege, Sam
Automatically and look at that we have a full and we keep the eastern, maybe
all North American, but at least Eastern's specimens in.
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Droege, Sam
Umm.
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Droege, Sam
In their own little folder. So here's a mail so good for us. We have something
to look at. You can see and we'll do a magnification thing here. You can see
that the back end on this one is very different from.
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Droege, Sam
What we are looking at in coturnix you can see that there are hairs and we can
do one more magnification. Hairs in these levels that maybe have sub branches,
but they're nowhere the like the scale like ones we saw in coturnix. If we come
up here we're looking at we don't see the backside but.
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Droege, Sam
We're looking at skewed them.
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Droege, Sam
Scutellum and there's a central Ridge. This is the giveaway for the species.
The central Ridge down the middle of the scutellum. And there's a tiny point.
It's a little bit hard to see there that's sticking out from the backside. And
here is the edge of the scutellum. And it has a vertical face. And that's where
you would be looking for these patches, which you can kind of see here sticking
out of white hairs and whether they're.
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Droege, Sam
Umm or not so?
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Droege, Sam
Umm.
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Droege, Sam
Skew. Tell them that we really don't need a lot more investigation of the
species in terms of ID.
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Droege, Sam
Let's make sure though, so, but if you have a question, holler out. Now I have
the special. I do have a specimen on deck here.
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Droege, Sam
And.
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Droege, Sam
It is there.
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Droege, Sam
Also, pictures are so much better.
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Droege, Sam
In their view, but we can look at a diversity of things this way, but you can
see even from this elevation.
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Droege, Sam
The.
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Droege, Sam
Central.
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Droege, Sam
Feed, breathe, feed supply here.
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Droege, Sam
The refresh rate.
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Droege, Sam
Still have not figured out if it's changed or just didn't notice it before.
Pretty slow.
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Maffei, Clare J
And certainly slower than it used to be.
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Droege, Sam
Is it? Yeah, I think it is. I'm somewhere. There's a setting. So here we go. We
can see the central spine. This sort of defining character of this, these are
quite long spines too. And if we.
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Droege, Sam
We can take a look at what's going on on the underside of it.
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Droege, Sam
This parasite of petulance.
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Droege, Sam
Just had to be patient as I move this thing.
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Droege, Sam
With the current.
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Droege, Sam
So here we don't need it necessarily, but here's I'm gonna say that's S S5. I
think it's S5 and S6 that have these things, but take a look here. We'll go up
a couple more notches.
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Droege, Sam
And these are the reason that these sternites can be very useful. Look how
different this is. There's two.
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Droege, Sam
Small spines. I'll call them on either side of a central notch in the
sclerotized area. You really can't see much of the translucent rim because of
the hair here, but.
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Droege, Sam
There is some poking out and it looks like it's not notched. And then on this
one you can see that there's even a more spectacular cut out of the segment in
that particular case, so.
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Maffei, Clare J
And do you have the Discover Life page pulled up to show you have like 8
different characters of possible there to show off?
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Droege, Sam
Yep.
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Droege, Sam
And get out of there.
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Droege, Sam
And we can look at the characters of Germanis it's I keep calling at germanna.
That's the older pronunciation. They changed it to us because of some kind of
gender conflict. OK, so right at the beginning, as four outline is included in
two of the many sections, 1 upper darkroom, deeply notched, lower amber, amber
colored rim, which we did not see very well.
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Droege, Sam
Evenly convex. So we did see that notch in it now and the other one double
rimmed so the upper dark rimmed deeply notched in the center again saw that
pretty easily angles on either side of the notch are produced into sharp points
that are fused to the upper surface. So we saw that too, which itself is evenly
convex. In theory we would only need this one because that's pretty obvious,
but a lot of times we overscore things because the idea is to get to the answer
not to be.
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Droege, Sam
Absolutist about a character.
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Droege, Sam
So that would be another lovely picture too, to add in addition to this.
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Droege, Sam
This diagram so you can see the points that we were looking at there. But
sometimes you know, I think the reason that we look at something like this is
that the points are obscured or it can't be seen, but you can see the notch and
why not? Why not continue on and identify it with the Super great character of the
scutellum. So one of the philosophies is that don't be very equivocal.
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Droege, Sam
About and precise about the scorings in characters, if you have a super
character somewhere that just defines the species because you don't want people
to miss the species simply because you.
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Droege, Sam
Umm, we're too conservative in your scoring and people mistook a a character
that wasn't that important as being present when you said it was absent and
therefore the species disappeared from the guide.
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Droege, Sam
That's the problem and the the benefit of these kinds of guides is you have
many, many different kinds of options, but that means you also have to score
them all, and for every species.
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Droege, Sam
Or deal and deal with him. It deals with ambiguity more up front.
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Droege, Sam
OK, so germana, I think we have covered it's primary features here or German
and US I should say.
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Droege, Sam
And.
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Droege, Sam
That we are way.
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Droege, Sam
Did Hunter eye last time?
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Droege, Sam
In.
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Droege, Sam
We have imagine WADA. Is this a male? I believe it is.
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Droege, Sam
So here is Immaculata.
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Droege, Sam
This is an uncommon species and.
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Droege, Sam
It's probably immaculata smell, by the way. So let's take a look and see what
we have picture wise from this one.
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Droege, Sam
Fun that we get to use pictures now.
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Droege, Sam
You don't know if I've updated the names in the picture guides I have not
there. It is OK. What have we here? That's our placeholder rock. It should be
have been gone by now. And this is. Looks like a mail too. So let's bring this
up. And let's also. So if we in general want to. Oops.
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Droege, Sam
I'm here we go. Take a look at the tail and take a look at the architecture
here. This is a mail, but the spine system quite different looking. And you can
also get an impression of an awful lot of pitting within the system. Recall
that in a lot of the species on two here's T1 right through here as the edge.
This is TT2. There are.
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Droege, Sam
Uh little tiny fovea, which I do not see in the picture. Let's see now what the
guy tells us in terms of the ID. That's something that I have to refresh on
too, because I just don't see this species that much.
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Droege, Sam
So if we go here again and go to menu.
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Droege, Sam
Characters immaculates and I don't know.
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Droege, Sam
What the host are for maculatus? I'm not sure that's known, so here we have S4,
so this is the underside and we either have they're both characters that are
possible.
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Droege, Sam
Looks like they both could be shallowly notched in the center or the upper Dark
1 notch and the other convex, so we could take a look at that.
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Droege, Sam
When we look at T2T3 transverse grooves, it's both.
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Droege, Sam
Umm.
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Droege, Sam
Uh. Shown as completely across in both segments or widely interrupted on one or
both, so not particularly great and T2 President apps is a pit like roof or
depression. So those are those little different kinds of pits and things and it
doesn't have one. It's not scored for having any. And we saw that if we look
back at the sorry at the picture here.
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Droege, Sam
Uh, that's this one.
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Droege, Sam
We can go to T2 area and there's nothing here. Here are the central grooves
there. And then the T3 groove is there and you can see that you might score
that for being all the way across or not. And in this case.
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Droege, Sam
Umm it scored for both because it's a little bit ambiguous and you see that to
the I can't remember now what was it to the front or to the back of that groove
over in this area would be a pit if there were one to be had and there is not
at this point. So let's go.
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Droege, Sam
To UM here immaculates. So here's hunteri versus immaculates and.
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Droege, Sam
When we were looking at the pronotal lobes, it says Immaculate is produced into
simple dark colored low Ridge that is neither especially thin or translucent.
So Hunter I if you remember from last time has the pronotal color here and
pronotal lobe area. So it runs together.
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Droege, Sam
With that's sticking up and creating a A a Ridge.
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Droege, Sam
Maculatus.
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Droege, Sam
There's not. We'll look at the picture again.
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Droege, Sam
You always right? I have to go here. And so in this area again, I'm not going
to use a microscope because the visual is less.
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Droege, Sam
Ohm is better here and you also it's hard to see something that's not there,
right. So you're not seeing any Ridge sticking up above these hairs. You're
also not seeing the infamous donut that's on top of Hunter I.
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Droege, Sam
And a couple other species. So going back to the guide.
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Droege, Sam
Here.
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Droege, Sam
We can look at the the the recessed area. What do we call it the the shallow
depression and whether there's hair or not. And it has filled with hair or
presenting as a brush. So that's not a very distinctive somewhat or very have a
lot of interesting things going on there. But the sort of the standard ones. So
it's not a particularly distinctive.
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Droege, Sam
Bolting.
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Droege, Sam
As we saw, it's a very densely and distinctly pitted specimen in general, so
it's gonna show that we see that leg color is not particularly helpful and.
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Droege, Sam
Neither of these things.
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Droege, Sam
Are particularly helpful here in terms of the actually length.
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Droege, Sam
But here we see that when we look at the product and the the rear face of the
scutellum that there is no hair going on.
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Droege, Sam
And then we have no lack of rich. So in general this is sort of a default
species, right? There's not any really noticeable feature. There's a lot of
things that are just not around. So if we go back to the picture here really
quickly, you can see that we do get a shot here. Here's the skew Tellem. Right.
And here are the rear face of his skew. Tell him you can see because we're not
quite.
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Droege, Sam
On vertical and here is the rear face of the meta notum.
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Droege, Sam
On on there too, and there's just long hair. There's none of the white type
repressed, oppressed hairs that you would see.
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Droege, Sam
Said the little creature right there.
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Droege, Sam
No, it's some feature that's interesting.
0:23:45.980 --> 0:23:48.910
Droege, Sam
Look at that. What is that going on there? So on this side too?
0:23:50.470 --> 0:23:58.490
Droege, Sam
Fine. I don't know. We don't have time to get into it. And so we look at the
couple's other specimens. This is might be the specimen that I also have.
0:23:59.20 --> 0:24:2.180
Droege, Sam
Ohm, you see relatively hairy face.
0:24:2.930 --> 0:24:8.520
Droege, Sam
Umm yeah, nothing really new here. There's no pits on the side.
0:24:9.950 --> 0:24:12.10
Droege, Sam
And same things slightly different view.
0:24:13.550 --> 0:24:14.480
Droege, Sam
And so.
0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:20.920
Droege, Sam
It's we're gonna flip it over to get people because it's a tricky.
0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:29.650
Droege, Sam
Character in general, looking at the sternites S4 and S5, I guess is what they
are, not S5 and S6.
0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.370
Droege, Sam
So if we go to the.
0:24:34.750 --> 0:24:37.520
Maffei, Clare J
Do you wanna see if you can find those little squiggles by the tie yellow?
0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:43.780
Droege, Sam
Umm, the the things that were like, what is that? Yeah, that would be
interesting.
0:24:44.940 --> 0:24:46.460
Droege, Sam
Let's just have an adventure.
0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:49.780
Droege, Sam
My first notion was.
0:24:50.700 --> 0:24:51.930
Droege, Sam
And that was some kind of.
0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:53.540
Droege, Sam
Parasite.
0:24:55.30 --> 0:24:55.780
Droege, Sam
Peeking out.
0:25:1.570 --> 0:25:2.450
Droege, Sam
To go up.
0:25:4.450 --> 0:25:8.780
Droege, Sam
So we're going to look at the sternites first and we'll go back to the top.
0:25:12.530 --> 0:25:14.230
Droege, Sam
Hey, moving in the right direction.
0:25:16.630 --> 0:25:29.240
Droege, Sam
OK, here, give us a little more magnification of this area and what we're
looking at is basically all the sections is being slightly notched in
particular.
0:25:30.850 --> 0:25:32.90
Droege, Sam
So I believe.
0:25:32.830 --> 0:25:42.530
Droege, Sam
Umm that might be S3. There you can see a notch and that's probably a notch.
But let's move a little closer there. I'm not sure if that's the.
0:25:44.340 --> 0:25:45.10
Droege, Sam
2nd.
0:25:47.210 --> 0:25:48.140
Droege, Sam
Segment.
0:25:52.150 --> 0:25:55.420
Droege, Sam
Or the amber rim of one of the segments.
0:25:57.170 --> 0:26:0.860
Droege, Sam
And I'm going to say it is the Amber rim because it looks like an Amber rim.
0:26:1.850 --> 0:26:2.780
Droege, Sam
If we.
0:26:12.430 --> 0:26:17.420
Droege, Sam
Difficult to see here. It's a little bit blown out, but I believe that is a
notch.
0:26:18.790 --> 0:26:20.400
Droege, Sam
Let's go up a little.
0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.370
Droege, Sam
See if that becomes apparent.
0:26:27.980 --> 0:26:30.30
Droege, Sam
Gosh, so horrible.
0:26:37.650 --> 0:26:38.900
Droege, Sam
At this focusing thing.
0:26:40.350 --> 0:26:42.480
Droege, Sam
Them all, he constantly overshooting.
0:26:43.940 --> 0:26:44.730
Droege, Sam
I want to see.
0:26:46.30 --> 0:26:48.260
Droege, Sam
OK. So that's more in focus.
0:26:50.350 --> 0:26:54.570
Droege, Sam
What is that information? So here is the Amber rim.
0:26:55.240 --> 0:27:5.750
Droege, Sam
Very clear in this particular species nicely I believe if we were to look more
closely and can take the light down maybe a smidge, which we can do.
0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:13.270
Droege, Sam
Hmm.
0:27:14.220 --> 0:27:17.330
Droege, Sam
That that's probably a notch. We'd have to look a little bit more closely.
0:27:18.590 --> 0:27:19.480
Droege, Sam
This.
0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:21.310
Droege, Sam
Is.
0:27:22.620 --> 0:27:23.590
Droege, Sam
Not clear to me.
0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:27.850
Droege, Sam
If that's four or S5, but let's move.
0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.280
Droege, Sam
It to the back a little bit.
0:27:36.170 --> 0:27:38.540
Droege, Sam
And we're not the magnification.
0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:48.570
Droege, Sam
And and looks messy down there. You can see how thick the spines are.
0:27:49.700 --> 0:27:56.630
Droege, Sam
On T6 so you can see the bottom parts of this looks like maybe some genitalia.
It's kind of messed up.
0:27:57.310 --> 0:28:3.530
Droege, Sam
Umm, here's where we were looking. This must be the other part. It does look
like it's notched out there.
0:28:5.610 --> 0:28:7.500
Droege, Sam
I can't really see an Amber rim.
0:28:8.600 --> 0:28:9.890
Droege, Sam
Action going on.
0:28:11.940 --> 0:28:13.350
Droege, Sam
There's a slight possibility.
0:28:16.490 --> 0:28:17.20
Droege, Sam
That.
0:28:18.870 --> 0:28:20.10
Droege, Sam
I'm looking at.
0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.810
Droege, Sam
Nope, there's tea.
0:28:25.910 --> 0:28:33.360
Droege, Sam
1234 so we were looking at the right one. T5 is just a little more tricky to
see.
0:28:35.170 --> 0:28:35.790
Droege, Sam
So.
0:28:36.590 --> 0:28:37.700
Droege, Sam
You can see where.
0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.800
Droege, Sam
Depending on the specimens.
0:28:43.410 --> 0:28:44.280
Droege, Sam
Status.
0:28:48.20 --> 0:28:49.650
Droege, Sam
It can be hard to see.
0:28:51.60 --> 0:29:1.340
Droege, Sam
Some of the characters, and that's why again we kind of like the discover life
things. So if you can't see or you're not comfortable with the character,
you're not necessarily stuck.
0:29:2.930 --> 0:29:3.420
Droege, Sam
Want it?
0:29:6.260 --> 0:29:8.210
Droege, Sam
Great. We are going for.
0:29:10.10 --> 0:29:13.550
Droege, Sam
An opportunity to find some strange.
0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:16.30
Droege, Sam
Character.
0:29:16.830 --> 0:29:19.170
Droege, Sam
We should do. We'll screen.
0:29:24.550 --> 0:29:25.770
Droege, Sam
Thought that was full screen.
0:29:28.50 --> 0:29:28.550
Droege, Sam
Here we go.
0:29:30.60 --> 0:29:33.350
Droege, Sam
No. Interesting. It's about the same screen.
0:29:35.970 --> 0:29:36.890
Droege, Sam
Size.
0:29:37.820 --> 0:29:39.950
Maffei, Clare J
Yeah, that's not what we've done before.
0:29:40.630 --> 0:29:42.720
Droege, Sam
Yeah. Let me hit escape.
0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:48.610
Droege, Sam
Maybe This is why?
0:29:49.770 --> 0:29:51.290
Droege, Sam
That that.
0:29:51.970 --> 0:29:52.370
Droege, Sam
That.
0:29:53.330 --> 0:29:58.680
Droege, Sam
I don't know, but it doesn't seem to want to go to full screen. I want to play
with this after we leave.
0:30:0.780 --> 0:30:6.50
Droege, Sam
So we can go back here and we will go to the.
0:30:6.890 --> 0:30:9.260
Droege, Sam
Umm, that's why I had a little more light.
0:30:14.190 --> 0:30:15.740
Droege, Sam
And a little more.
0:30:16.490 --> 0:30:17.620
Droege, Sam
Magnification.
0:30:18.330 --> 0:30:20.820
Droege, Sam
See if we can get into the Tabula area.
0:30:21.460 --> 0:30:25.450
Droege, Sam
And see if there is a mysterious structure there.
0:30:29.500 --> 0:30:31.210
Droege, Sam
This thing is a different specimen.
0:30:32.730 --> 0:30:33.330
Droege, Sam
But.
0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.770
Droege, Sam
There is something there. What the heck?
0:30:44.830 --> 0:30:47.720
Droege, Sam
Trying to do this at 5X now.
0:30:51.690 --> 0:30:52.500
Droege, Sam
And.
0:30:55.340 --> 0:30:58.670
Droege, Sam
Need to go a little bit further and not bump it.
0:31:7.40 --> 0:31:9.30
Droege, Sam
OK, so that looks like the rear wing.
0:31:10.390 --> 0:31:11.540
Droege, Sam
And we have.
0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.240
Droege, Sam
Something going on in there?
0:31:17.540 --> 0:31:21.860
Droege, Sam
Right. We're going to take too much time doing this, but what is that? What is
that thing in there?
0:31:24.260 --> 0:31:24.560
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:31:25.980 --> 0:31:26.470
Droege, Sam
Enough.
0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:36.410
Droege, Sam
So here we have a different specimen. Then the picture says a lot goofier, but
if you look here again you can see.
0:31:37.490 --> 0:31:38.420
Droege, Sam
Lots of pits.
0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.220
Droege, Sam
There's nothing on.
0:31:44.300 --> 0:31:47.930
Droege, Sam
T2 this is T2, there's the Ridge. There's no.
0:31:49.70 --> 0:31:59.160
Droege, Sam
Special pit, or fovea, on this? It's all just pitting and you can see that the
rear end here has a very different look. Very blunt.
0:32:0.500 --> 0:32:4.510
Droege, Sam
Maybe even a loss of a point or two in that system.
0:32:6.440 --> 0:32:13.70
Droege, Sam
And no, on the backside, no abreast hairs. Alright.
0:32:20.220 --> 0:32:20.980
Droege, Sam
2.
0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:30.450
Droege, Sam
Gosh.
0:32:34.380 --> 0:32:37.720
Droege, Sam
In Int had invaded the open box.
0:32:38.790 --> 0:32:39.680
Droege, Sam
Without permission.
0:32:46.580 --> 0:32:47.710
Maffei, Clare J
Can you say ants?
0:32:47.940 --> 0:32:49.390
Droege, Sam
An aunt for some reason.
0:32:50.810 --> 0:32:59.590
Droege, Sam
OK, so this is one that has this. OK, we're looking at Celiac's modestus, I
believe it was modesta before.
0:33:0.690 --> 0:33:2.990
Droege, Sam
And it has a.
0:33:3.700 --> 0:33:5.570
Droege, Sam
Unique feature.
0:33:7.330 --> 0:33:13.180
Droege, Sam
That, at least in the eastern species, others don't have. So on T2, that's
where we normally look for.
0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.340
Droege, Sam
He's little fovea. I'm going to try and find it here.
0:33:17.700 --> 0:33:26.370
Droege, Sam
See modas. Ohh, we'll get a highway as or two so uh now see you access.
0:33:29.660 --> 0:33:30.700
Droege, Sam
And.
0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:45.90
Droege, Sam
These could be males. I can't talk. It's kind of a dark screen here. OK. Yeah.
Let's see what we can see. So here again, I slightly different look to the.
0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:56.940
Droege, Sam
Hind end here's T1T2T3. So what we're looking for on T3, we may have to find
this in the microscope. It might be there is a fovea.
0:33:57.690 --> 0:34:12.480
Droege, Sam
Find Teeth 3 instead of T2 so there's nothing on T2 here, but on T3 it has a
ovia not usually listed in the literature. It's a little bit obscure, but.
0:34:13.630 --> 0:34:21.310
Droege, Sam
It's it's the only one that has this, I guess. Let's spend a second here.
Looking at this specimen. So here.
0:34:22.550 --> 0:34:46.600
Droege, Sam
Look how different the pitting pattern is here between this one very low and
the the grooves flatten out here in the middle. The pitting is quite low
compared to the others. It does have bright white patterns here. It's not like
coturnix because these are not late like they are feathered, but they are thicker
than the others.
0:34:50.30 --> 0:34:52.810
Droege, Sam
It should be over in this area.
0:34:53.540 --> 0:34:57.110
Droege, Sam
Should be the phobia. We'll have to find it. It might be it right there.
0:34:57.830 --> 0:35:0.720
Droege, Sam
Umm, find it on the microscope.
0:35:4.160 --> 0:35:10.450
Droege, Sam
I think it has relatively little hair on the backside of the methanol item and
the scutellum.
0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:22.570
Droege, Sam
And so we'll go. No donut on the head. So let's go now to the microscope. Take
a look and find the fovea.
0:35:23.970 --> 0:35:27.980
Droege, Sam
That's distinctive. It probably keys out also. Whoops.
0:35:29.690 --> 0:35:30.480
Droege, Sam
And so.
0:35:31.630 --> 0:35:32.500
Droege, Sam
In.
0:35:34.260 --> 0:35:38.490
Droege, Sam
With other features, but this one is just a nice addition.
0:35:42.540 --> 0:35:43.210
Droege, Sam
To look for.
0:35:45.190 --> 0:35:47.300
Droege, Sam
But it's not. It's not like.
0:35:48.490 --> 0:35:49.970
Droege, Sam
Super obvious.
0:36:0.70 --> 0:36:1.490
Droege, Sam
Great phobia.
0:36:3.140 --> 0:36:5.120
Droege, Sam
Where are you? You know what I'm going to.
0:36:6.410 --> 0:36:7.860
Droege, Sam
Find it microscope first.
0:36:9.170 --> 0:36:14.400
Droege, Sam
Because it's relatively small, I wanna make sure I get it.
0:36:33.750 --> 0:36:40.520
Droege, Sam
OK, it it was that thing that we saw on the other one, which is basically a
sort of.
0:36:42.150 --> 0:36:44.160
Droege, Sam
Recall it a holy crater.
0:36:46.100 --> 0:36:48.60
Droege, Sam
So if we go back to the picture.
0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:53.50
Droege, Sam
Go back here.
0:36:54.30 --> 0:37:5.700
Droege, Sam
To T3 it's this area right there, so it's recessed and there's pits in the
inside of it, and it's on T3. So if we go now to.
0:37:6.640 --> 0:37:7.300
Droege, Sam
Microscope.
0:37:9.920 --> 0:37:13.170
Droege, Sam
Move in to find the specimen.
0:37:23.450 --> 0:37:24.490
Droege, Sam
And.
0:37:26.180 --> 0:37:26.530
Droege, Sam
Oops.
0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:37.240
Droege, Sam
So here's.
0:37:38.210 --> 0:37:44.130
Droege, Sam
21T2T3 and I think it's that area right there, but I'm gonna zoom up.
0:37:45.790 --> 0:37:48.470
Droege, Sam
See if I can capture it a little bit better.
0:37:51.990 --> 0:37:53.970
Droege, Sam
Meaning a smidge more light.
0:37:59.730 --> 0:38:8.400
Droege, Sam
That is good and it's me. Be make sure I'm on the right one. So 212223.
0:38:9.620 --> 0:38:11.480
Droege, Sam
Probably that right there.
0:38:14.590 --> 0:38:19.80
Droege, Sam
And yeah, this should be it. The problem is.
0:38:20.810 --> 0:38:21.460
Droege, Sam
That.
0:38:22.310 --> 0:38:31.100
Droege, Sam
The lighting is not great to see that from that direction. So let's add a
little more light to the surface.
0:38:32.770 --> 0:38:33.450
Droege, Sam
Here.
0:38:35.460 --> 0:38:36.50
Droege, Sam
Yeah.
0:38:37.90 --> 0:38:38.300
Droege, Sam
Maybe a little bit more.
0:38:43.150 --> 0:38:43.340
Droege, Sam
No.
0:38:44.210 --> 0:38:45.150
Droege, Sam
And might be too much.
0:38:46.80 --> 0:38:48.890
Droege, Sam
Umm. Is it possibly that one?
0:38:49.710 --> 0:38:50.550
Droege, Sam
All right, so.
0:38:52.290 --> 0:38:53.880
Droege, Sam
I'm being uh.
0:38:55.620 --> 0:38:59.110
Droege, Sam
Unhelpful here in terms of being able to see this.
0:39:0.80 --> 0:39:5.330
Droege, Sam
Tea three pit reader complex.
0:39:7.900 --> 0:39:12.180
Droege, Sam
You'll have to get some specimens and take a look at them. We'll look at the.
0:39:14.350 --> 0:39:16.480
Droege, Sam
Characters and I'm second.
0:39:17.900 --> 0:39:19.140
Droege, Sam
Recall that.
0:39:20.470 --> 0:39:22.160
Droege, Sam
Modestus and the female had that.
0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:23.680
Droege, Sam
Tipped up.
0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.990
Droege, Sam
Point on well, it just takes so long for this to.
0:39:29.930 --> 0:39:30.730
Droege, Sam
Recover.
0:39:33.940 --> 0:39:34.330
Droege, Sam
Right.
0:39:35.510 --> 0:39:39.140
Droege, Sam
I'm going to call it not easily visible and move on.
0:39:40.770 --> 0:39:45.300
Droege, Sam
I think it's. We're actually also looking through a wing. Maybe that's the
problem.
0:39:48.250 --> 0:39:51.70
Droege, Sam
And try one more time and just flip it to the other side.
0:39:51.810 --> 0:39:54.50
Droege, Sam
And try and see it through.
0:39:54.860 --> 0:39:55.950
Droege, Sam
Duane edges.
0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:16.720
Droege, Sam
Yeah, we have the feed is so slow.
0:40:17.450 --> 0:40:22.520
Droege, Sam
OK, I am moving too quickly. There we go. It's caught up alright.
0:40:23.810 --> 0:40:25.820
Droege, Sam
During a white pack down to something reasonable.
0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:33.190
Droege, Sam
Abdomen.
0:40:36.470 --> 0:40:38.370
Droege, Sam
Move up some power levels.
0:40:41.740 --> 0:40:44.20
Droege, Sam
Move the magnification slowly.
0:40:59.810 --> 0:41:0.820
Droege, Sam
Oh, there we go.
0:41:4.600 --> 0:41:5.130
Droege, Sam
So.
0:41:6.310 --> 0:41:12.10
Droege, Sam
T1T2T3. So if if I have it right, it's right there.
0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.210
Droege, Sam
And we are not going to look anymore after this.
0:41:17.150 --> 0:41:17.760
Droege, Sam
Can't find it.
0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.870
Droege, Sam
You can't illuminate it well.
0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:28.210
Droege, Sam
Umm yeah, it's this right there. There's a couple of pits inside it.
0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:35.160
Droege, Sam
You can guess it's just a difficult to show thing in this kind of lighting,
right? We'll stop.
0:41:37.310 --> 0:41:40.760
Droege, Sam
Get your own Modesto specimens and take a look at it.
0:41:42.100 --> 0:41:42.440
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:41:43.750 --> 0:41:46.620
Droege, Sam
Let's go back to.
0:41:48.390 --> 0:41:48.590
Droege, Sam
The.
0:41:48.670 --> 0:41:49.440
Droege, Sam
We.
0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.150
Droege, Sam
Specimen, but I really want to go to.
0:41:56.220 --> 0:42:0.510
Droege, Sam
The identification we're going to look at characters and we'll look at
Modestus.
0:42:3.920 --> 0:42:11.540
Droege, Sam
And we have OK on the mail, S4 is double rimmed and notched.
0:42:13.20 --> 0:42:14.50
Droege, Sam
And.
0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:21.850
Droege, Sam
Doesn't. Ohh I can't, it's mostly just dealing with S4, not S5 but.
0:42:23.930 --> 0:42:29.540
Droege, Sam
You can either have interrupted or continuous UM troughs across the segments.
0:42:33.260 --> 0:42:48.160
Droege, Sam
Modestus T3 has a set of two enlarged deep in pits that are about three to four
times the size of the surrounding pits. That's what we were trying to find
halfway between the sides and the center line. Bit difficult to detect. OK, so.
0:42:48.570 --> 0:42:49.180
Droege, Sam
Umm.
0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:54.430
Droege, Sam
It's again something that you'll probably have to peer around at.
0:42:57.150 --> 0:43:25.920
Droege, Sam
On here presence is bare or the short set of lines, not super distinctive
there. So I think in general this is another one of these species that falls in
between doesn't have any characteristics on the scutellum edge. It's got a a
spot of oppressed hairs on the meta nodum and it has scutellum has a press
terrorists too. So that adds to it and.
0:43:26.790 --> 0:43:39.490
Droege, Sam
Again, no median Ridge there. So it's gonna be a pretty generic species, except
for you'll end up having to look at those kinds of patterns on the side.
0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:44.560
Droege, Sam
Of the meta node of the scutellum and the meta notum.
0:43:45.820 --> 0:43:52.70
Droege, Sam
It's hard to see from this angle. Let's take a look at a couple more pictures
to see if we get a better shot that is not helping.
0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:54.130
Droege, Sam
And.
0:43:55.770 --> 0:44:1.200
Droege, Sam
That, oh, there's the underside. Interesting. I took a picture of that so as
four.
0:44:2.110 --> 0:44:10.970
Droege, Sam
If we look at this, this should be S1234. Let's go one bit more. Supposed to be
notched in both sections.
0:44:11.790 --> 0:44:16.800
Droege, Sam
Little bit difficult and a little bit dark. Can't see the Amber Rim which would
be in there on that one.
0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:20.810
Droege, Sam
Dark specimen problems.
0:44:22.30 --> 0:44:26.600
Droege, Sam
And do I have a headshot here? Ohh is this a different shot?
0:44:29.40 --> 0:44:35.630
Droege, Sam
No, that's the same one. So in here somewhere or maybe that is that crater?
0:44:39.270 --> 0:44:46.60
Droege, Sam
And we've gone through all the the pictures now, so relatively common species.
0:44:59.230 --> 0:45:0.100
Droege, Sam
So now.
0:45:1.0 --> 0:45:6.700
Droege, Sam
So I don't have any mails of moas stuff. Most of the more of a northern
species.
0:45:15.850 --> 0:45:17.480
Droege, Sam
We do have portray.
0:45:18.430 --> 0:45:19.240
Droege, Sam
Meals.
0:45:20.90 --> 0:45:22.530
Droege, Sam
Look to see if there is a picture of a male.
0:45:30.60 --> 0:45:50.850
Droege, Sam
And looks like there is. So if we move in and look at the pictures and you guys
tell us if we are doing a good job looking at these pictures and we move in and
double it up, let's see if we can spot here because I don't know offhand
there's T1.
0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:53.10
Droege, Sam
Here's the T2.
0:45:54.240 --> 0:46:0.290
Droege, Sam
And I am not seeing any fovea on T2 which would be in this general area.
0:46:1.350 --> 0:46:3.200
Droege, Sam
Umm. And then.
0:46:4.490 --> 0:46:11.240
Droege, Sam
A slightly different configuration to the spines on the end of T7.
0:46:12.690 --> 0:46:21.10
Droege, Sam
I believe that there aren't no oppressed hairs on the meta. Notum and scutellum
manage there no particular architecture.
0:46:22.190 --> 0:46:29.920
Droege, Sam
Of note, let's take a look. Look at what the guide says here we have a specimen
so we can look at that also.
0:46:31.720 --> 0:46:36.770
Droege, Sam
We don't want modestus. We want order a.
0:46:40.700 --> 0:46:47.430
Droege, Sam
So when we're looking at S4, we are looking at double rimmed upper.
0:46:47.940 --> 0:47:11.170
Droege, Sam
Uh, darkroom is convex. OK, so it doesn't have a notch, and then the amber room
is notched so we can look for that continuous troughs across both segments.
Ohh, it says that there is a deep elongate and narrow grain of rice size.
Obvious pit for a shallow pit internally.
0:47:11.710 --> 0:47:17.790
Droege, Sam
No available. I did not see that in that picture. Let's take a quick look here.
0:47:18.550 --> 0:47:19.710
Droege, Sam
Hi miss specimen.
0:47:21.260 --> 0:47:23.600
Droege, Sam
With my microscope to see.
0:47:24.780 --> 0:47:26.850
Droege, Sam
If it is visible.
0:47:28.380 --> 0:47:29.300
Droege, Sam
Maybe.
0:47:31.130 --> 0:47:31.730
Droege, Sam
Yeah.
0:47:33.570 --> 0:47:35.410
Droege, Sam
I can see it. Let's see.
0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:40.430
Droege, Sam
If we can get it to show. So it's very the.
0:47:41.420 --> 0:47:45.210
Droege, Sam
The problem will be that the.
0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:55.530
Droege, Sam
Area that's depressed is not very deep, so it doesn't show up as a shadow
easily and in pictures or online.
0:47:56.720 --> 0:48:0.890
Droege, Sam
And it's filled with pits, so it looks pretty similar to the surrounding.
0:48:1.560 --> 0:48:3.930
Droege, Sam
Umm area, let me put this specimen away.
0:48:17.780 --> 0:48:32.310
Droege, Sam
To your microscope skills will be put to a test as well. My ability to show
these things. Let's go back to the pictures and see if we can see anything on
here again so.
0:48:33.60 --> 0:48:47.610
Droege, Sam
It's probably based on what I'm just looking at here. It's probably this so you
can see an area with a little bit greater density. It doesn't look like it's a
pit, but it's pretty shallow. So I think in this picture it's not showing up.
0:48:48.130 --> 0:48:57.340
Droege, Sam
Umm. As a cavity. But you can see the the smaller and greater density of pits
there. That's what I'm seeing under the microscope too.
0:48:58.30 --> 0:49:1.530
Droege, Sam
Over on this other side, you don't really see anything.
0:49:2.130 --> 0:49:9.500
Droege, Sam
You can do a quick check and see if there's another picture that shows
something no, maybe from the side, so here's T1T2.
0:49:13.890 --> 0:49:17.320
Droege, Sam
Not the right angle. Mostly we're seeing the sides of the sclerites.
0:49:20.460 --> 0:49:21.930
Droege, Sam
And UM.
0:49:23.450 --> 0:49:41.200
Droege, Sam
You think that is it the probably a headshot that's not very helpful, right.
Let's see if we can find this T2 thing and the importance of T2 is you can see
that there's a group of species that look about the same in these mails.
0:49:42.500 --> 0:49:43.70
Droege, Sam
Umm.
0:49:43.820 --> 0:49:48.90
Droege, Sam
And if we go to here again so.
0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:58.210
Droege, Sam
We're looking for this shallow, internally pitted type of thing. And then. Ohh
here's something about portrait versus.
0:49:59.450 --> 0:50:3.310
Droege, Sam
Uh. Other species Octodon Titus and say I.
0:50:4.470 --> 0:50:34.380
Droege, Sam
And it's saying Porter a T4 and T5 have so on top have a narrow but clear
unpitted medial longitudinal line. OK, we'll look for that. The facial fovea on
T2. That's what we were trying to find. And we'll try to find our
longitudinally wide. So they're long across the breadth of the specimen and
about 3 pits wide and taking about half to little less of the. You can see how.
0:50:34.770 --> 0:50:36.140
Droege, Sam
The this pit.
0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:45.920
Droege, Sam
That occurs on T2 can require some looking at because it helps discriminate
things when they're often aren't that many other characters.
0:50:46.790 --> 0:50:53.720
Droege, Sam
Longitudinal discipline. The apical takes up about half of the width between
the hair band and the troth.
0:50:55.630 --> 0:50:58.770
Droege, Sam
Interior pits, very obvious and direct comparison. The notch.
0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:11.970
Droege, Sam
In the tip of the amber rim of four is wider and deeper and quite prominent, so
we'll look for that. The abdominal pits are larger in comparison to the pits on
the skukum than in Moes stub.
0:51:13.570 --> 0:51:15.880
Droege, Sam
OK, so we have on deck.
0:51:17.30 --> 0:51:17.900
Droege, Sam
A specimen.
0:51:19.740 --> 0:51:23.570
Droege, Sam
And it's way up on five. So let's take it down to something reasonable.
0:51:25.710 --> 0:51:31.260
Droege, Sam
And the first thing I've order will be defined our T2.
0:51:35.610 --> 0:51:39.520
Droege, Sam
And maybe the first thing I've order is to get this thing and focus.
0:51:41.70 --> 0:51:42.940
Droege, Sam
I believe that it is going out of focus.
0:51:51.270 --> 0:51:55.400
Droege, Sam
We we have some wing blocking going on potentially here.
0:51:59.40 --> 0:52:9.390
Droege, Sam
Good who we might be in luck. So I'm gonna say target this area right there as
potentially our.
0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:15.590
Droege, Sam
Are shallow pitted area.
0:52:16.500 --> 0:52:17.830
Droege, Sam
Ovia if you will.
0:52:18.620 --> 0:52:22.70
Droege, Sam
We'll see if we can bring that into focus.
0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:29.260
Droege, Sam
OK, you can kind of see it evolved into a pit. Ohh, we have just the right
amount of shadow here.
0:52:33.630 --> 0:52:36.440
Droege, Sam
There we go. OK, so.
0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:52.330
Droege, Sam
Here's the pit. Here's the hairline, and here's the through right there. And
the idea is that relatively wide, it's not a slot, and it's taking up about
half that space, maybe slightly less. Depends on where you measure edges.
0:52:53.260 --> 0:52:56.550
Droege, Sam
Let's go in a little bit further if we can here.
0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:2.870
Droege, Sam
And we're off to one side, see if I can nudge over this clay.
0:53:7.10 --> 0:53:8.420
Droege, Sam
Into the center of the screen.
0:53:9.290 --> 0:53:10.240
Droege, Sam
Pretty small.
0:53:11.230 --> 0:53:14.230
Droege, Sam
Right now we're getting a surprisingly good look.
0:53:15.80 --> 0:53:17.40
Droege, Sam
As the shadow is just right here.
0:53:17.720 --> 0:53:48.690
Droege, Sam
Ohm. So here's that pit. You can see there are pits to the interior. It's a
little bit difficult to see, but they're actually denser and smaller inside
that area. I'm going to try and change the focus a little bit. Oh, I might have
worked. Now, how about adding some more light to see if we can get in there a
little bit better? I think that's not bad. I'm kind of surprised. OK. So
there's our pit, here's our trough. Here's the edge of the.
0:53:49.230 --> 0:53:57.600
Droege, Sam
I'm here online and here's T1 up here, so that's the pitting that we're looking
for.
0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:2.330
Droege, Sam
In this particular case, and the design of that.
0:54:3.690 --> 0:54:5.60
Droege, Sam
All right, so.
0:54:6.420 --> 0:54:11.390
Droege, Sam
I believe there was a vague it's too much light.
0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:22.200
Droege, Sam
Ah, big line midline on if I wanna say T4 and T what maybe T5 and T6.
0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:24.150
Droege, Sam
So.
0:54:25.300 --> 0:54:36.90
Droege, Sam
We think we can kind of see that here. See this, this, this sharper line
between the reflections there, we'll go back and take a look at the.
0:54:37.290 --> 0:54:38.530
Maffei, Clare J
T form T5.
0:54:37.410 --> 0:54:46.530
Droege, Sam
Ask here T4 and T5. OK so here is 1234 and five.
0:54:47.850 --> 0:54:53.860
Droege, Sam
That might be there too. Let's zoom in and I'm going to bring it up a little
bit.
0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:57.270
Droege, Sam
Since stays in the picture.
0:54:59.670 --> 0:55:0.390
Droege, Sam
And.
0:55:1.200 --> 0:55:3.730
Droege, Sam
Certainly not prominent.
0:55:5.40 --> 0:55:5.550
Droege, Sam
But.
0:55:17.500 --> 0:55:20.790
Droege, Sam
Bring this into picture a little bit more.
0:55:26.60 --> 0:55:37.790
Droege, Sam
On T4 I don't really see it. It looks like this is probably what they're
talking about on T6, but let's change the angle here a little bit.
0:55:42.310 --> 0:55:47.760
Droege, Sam
And see if we get a different light. So I'm gonna put it more or less straight
down.
0:55:57.30 --> 0:56:2.420
Droege, Sam
What did it say, Claire? A vague unpitted line down T4 and T5.
0:56:4.980 --> 0:56:10.710
Maffei, Clare J
Yeah. Puerto Rico T4T5 narrow but clear. Unpitted medial longitudinal line.
0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:26.800
Droege, Sam
I don't really see it.
0:56:31.60 --> 0:56:33.110
Droege, Sam
We change the focus here.
0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:37.990
Droege, Sam
Do one more view.
0:56:55.10 --> 0:57:0.790
Droege, Sam
OK so here I think this is the the line that they're talking about.
0:57:2.190 --> 0:57:3.410
Droege, Sam
Not very prominent.
0:57:4.530 --> 0:57:7.600
Droege, Sam
And maybe if we saw it better, we'd see it on T4.
0:57:9.300 --> 0:57:13.850
Droege, Sam
I'm going through there and it also may be one of these things where.
0:57:14.980 --> 0:57:20.190
Droege, Sam
Sculpturally you have to run angle. What happens when I change the lighting
here?
0:57:20.980 --> 0:57:21.800
Droege, Sam
The whole lot.
0:57:25.990 --> 0:57:26.370
Droege, Sam
Yeah.
0:57:27.430 --> 0:57:28.20
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:34.530
Droege, Sam
And what are we also looking for? We're looking for something on S.
0:57:35.460 --> 0:57:37.240
Droege, Sam
Four. Was it Claire?
0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:38.490
Maffei, Clare J
Hmm.
0:57:37.940 --> 0:57:38.840
Droege, Sam
On the other side.
0:57:39.510 --> 0:57:40.300
Maffei, Clare J
Uh.
0:57:41.860 --> 0:57:50.320
Maffei, Clare J
In direct comparison to these other species, the notch in the tip of the amber
rim of S4 is wider and deeper and quite prominent.
0:57:51.290 --> 0:57:58.350
Maffei, Clare J
The abdominal pits are larger in comparison to the that's skewed them. So as
four is wider and deeper and prominent.
0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:0.820
Droege, Sam
OK. And then I think we're running out of time here.
0:58:1.700 --> 0:58:2.750
Droege, Sam
So much.
0:58:4.490 --> 0:58:7.660
Droege, Sam
All right, so this should be S4.
0:58:9.240 --> 0:58:10.60
Droege, Sam
And.
0:58:12.930 --> 0:58:14.140
Droege, Sam
Where is that S4?
0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:18.90
Droege, Sam
So there's an amber rim sticking out.
0:58:19.420 --> 0:58:20.640
Droege, Sam
With a notch in it.
0:58:22.250 --> 0:58:36.480
Droege, Sam
So I'm going to guess stats S4 in there. It's the the notch in the Amber Rim is
to say that S4 the first part is not star, not notched. Or does it not mention?
Is it just talking about the Amber rim?
0:58:38.430 --> 0:58:51.700
Maffei, Clare J
And if I scroll up to the the rim question, it says double rimmed upper dark
rim evenly convex, lower amber color rim shallowly notched in center is what
it's scored for. Yeah, that seems.
0:58:48.770 --> 0:58:49.820
Droege, Sam
OK. Yeah.
0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:53.200
Droege, Sam
So I did a pretty good view of that.
0:58:53.540 --> 0:58:53.810
Maffei, Clare J
Umm.
0:58:54.0 --> 0:58:54.600
Droege, Sam
Here.
0:58:55.650 --> 0:58:56.950
Droege, Sam
Not now, but.
0:58:57.700 --> 0:59:8.100
Droege, Sam
So here's the darker sclerotized rim and you can see it basically is all
convex. There's no notch or cut out there, but the amber Rim does have.
0:59:9.10 --> 0:59:11.210
Droege, Sam
A shallow no show.
0:59:12.460 --> 0:59:14.910
Droege, Sam
And I think we're at a stopping place.
0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:17.980
Maffei, Clare J
We're at a great stopping place. Good job.
0:59:18.590 --> 0:59:19.620
Droege, Sam
Yeah. Thanks.
0:59:18.950 --> 0:59:25.920
Maffei, Clare J
And I've made a note for myself for us to try to figure out this lag thing when
we're in the lab together tomorrow, so.
0:59:25.770 --> 0:59:26.620
Droege, Sam
Yeah. OK.
0:59:26.850 --> 0:59:32.600
Maffei, Clare J
Umm, but we'll have off next week and then we'll be back in two weeks.
0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:35.580
Maffei, Clare J
Hopefully with some tech issues smoothed out.
0:59:36.330 --> 0:59:37.620
Droege, Sam
Yeah, any.
0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:45.710
Droege, Sam
Any ohh continuous AE? OK, never mind I'm I'm problem solving right now, so no
questions.
0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:51.900
Maffei, Clare J
No, Umm, we just had somebody really like the photos, but otherwise it was a
quiet chat today.
0:59:50.590 --> 0:59:51.380
Droege, Sam
The photo things.
0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:53.320
Droege, Sam
Yeah, it's probably Dave Smith.
0:59:54.370 --> 0:59:55.210
Maffei, Clare J
It was.
0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:55.470
Droege, Sam
And he was the.
0:59:56.140 --> 0:59:57.470
Maffei, Clare J
Not that we're good. Yep.
0:59:57.290 --> 0:59:58.550
Droege, Sam
Not it's OK.
0:59:58.470 --> 1:0:0.260
Maffei, Clare J
It was not dismiss. I'm sorry. He was married though.
0:59:59.540 --> 1:0:8.130
Droege, Sam
Alright, good. Yeah, but I I like the use of the photos too. And so we'll we'll
try and do that more and then use the microscope for.
1:0:9.270 --> 1:0:14.940
Droege, Sam
This is zooming in on things that are not in the photo that we need to take a
look at and it will save time too.
1:0:17.360 --> 1:0:17.820
Maffei, Clare J
You like it?
1:0:19.180 --> 1:0:19.970
Maffei, Clare J
Your job team.