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Maffei, Clare J
Yeah, we're gonna finish making Kylie today. And next week, I'm moving forward.
We're taking.
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Maffei, Clare J
You know, requests for what genus we start doing the species on next.
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Maffei, Clare J
But we also wanted to kind of have an open office hours for next session, where
can be kind of Mike will be back, at least I think so do and ask me anything
for Sam and Mike and.
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Maffei, Clare J
You know, bring direct questions from characters or requests for things that
you want pictures of either species, characters, whatever.
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Maffei, Clare J
Yes. And you wanna say anything else about that?
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Maffei, Clare J
OK.
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Droege, Sam
That we're good, we can roll with almost anything, so we'll maybe we'll put out
something more in e-mail too for to let everyone know.
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Maffei, Clare J
Great. Well, let's.
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Droege, Sam
Bring out the bring out your mysteries.
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Maffei, Clare J
Yes.
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Droege, Sam
OK.
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Maffei, Clare J
Alright, well, let's get started.
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Droege, Sam
So we have the last group and these are all things that have no front Coxwell
spine to speak of, just a low mound, sometimes not even that.
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Droege, Sam
And I'm just going to share right now and we're going to go back and revisit a
little bit the we had started into that group, Campanelli, an exilus and we had
the mysterious hang on for one second. Let's share.
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Droege, Sam
The mysterious hair. Well, I can't even remember the name of the hair. Mike
took it out of the current guide because we found that both exilus and are.
Yeah. Exilus and Campanelli both had this hair. I'm gonna show you a picture
here in a second. Very different and strange and might be probably is a good
character for those two, but not does not separate those two other characters
do. So let's return to that. I'm gonna take you to the.
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Droege, Sam
Camera and remember we tried to find it last time, but it had been tucked under
and you couldn't see it. But here we have Campanelli. So Campanelli, dark
front.
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Droege, Sam
Uh tarsal segments narrow and long. If you wanted to calculate it that way,
front tarsal segment, particularly the basic Tarsis here comparatively, is not
the greatest angle on that. And this is this strange hair. Now, does anyone
remember the name of it? I can't remember it now, but I have never seen this
before. And we did some poking around with some of the other groups. And we
think it's unique to these two species. But it's just really strange. It's one.
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Maffei, Clare J
That's the gopherus.
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Droege, Sam
What is it?
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Maffei, Clare J
Master gopherus.
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Droege, Sam
Yes, the master gopherus and so there it is really cool in some ways and
mysterious at the same time. Additionally, in this picture we can also make out
by changing the focus. Another feature that separates out and This is why these
were sometimes considered cause there's a bunch of these odd.
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Droege, Sam
Umm. Characteristics sometimes have been in the past considered a separate
genus from Megachile, so here's the mandible. We're looking upside down. And
here's the mandible. And in most PCs there's a basal tooth and it's basil. So
there's a a big projection, quite, quite spectacular and large. We've seen some
of this before, but it's down near the mandible base and but in anxious and
Campanelli, it's.
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Droege, Sam
Basically in the middle, so here it is right here. It's it's rather huge, but
it's in the center rather than at the base. The point is over the center rather
than they're the base of the mandible.
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Droege, Sam
Uh, there's probably a couple other things, but.
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Droege, Sam
Those I wanted to point out. So we'll leave now because we talked quite a bit
about Campanelli and anxious and if but if we have questions, we can go back
and revisit them they have.
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Droege, Sam
When I'm looking, I'm mostly looking at the front basitar see.
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Droege, Sam
Uh and tarsal segment combo there to see whether it's a little bit longer, but
all dark and not very cupped on the backside. This is the front side and
Campanelli here and then in.
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Droege, Sam
Umm.
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Droege, Sam
Exilus it's these are wider. These are about wider than the.
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Droege, Sam
The tarsal segment here and you can see these are narrower than the tarsal
segment. My talks about in a slightly different way, but it's the same idea and
more compressed. And when particularly when you look from the rear side, it's
has pale elements, it's not completely yellow for sure, it's more of an amber
brown, but much paler than you see in Campanelli. Then there's a couple other
features in terms of hair length and other things that can be seen.
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Droege, Sam
I find mikes.
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Droege, Sam
I'm Frank Coxwell hairs, a little bit difficult and discern unless you have
both and can look at both of them, they're they're quite different when you
have them in comparison, but they both have a lot of hair there, one is denser
and shorter and the other is longer and a little fluffier, but hard to kind of
quantify when you're looking at only one, but certainly adds an element of to
the identification when you have nice comparative series.
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Droege, Sam
So in order to get through today, we can return to these. I'm going to now go
back to Mike's guide and we'll might refer to.
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Droege, Sam
Uh. Discover life also in this because there's we have slightly different ways
of talking about this next group here. So if I just in terms of exilus the
other nice feature, if we have time, we can go back to it is the basic tarsal
hairs are quite different and they have a nice measure. You can compare them to
the width of the basitar sis. And then one there about the width and the other
there are quite a bit wider.
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Droege, Sam
Then the width of the basic tarsus, and that's pretty easy to see. So this last
group here includes inermis, which we're going to take a look at here first because
it's different from these last three. These last three will be a set of
relatively common specimens, particularly relative and Monte Vegas seem to be
very regular relativa being the most common often in urban areas. Singularis is
in northern species, it's introduced.
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Droege, Sam
That's very similar to these other two, a bit more northern, a bit very much
more associated with cities, but different, you know, tricky to separate out.
And intermission is a another northern species, but it's huge. So I'm going to
pull the internist specimen that I have here on deck and get rid of our
Campanelli friend.
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Droege, Sam
And put that in. So just by just by measurement with a ruler, it's going to be
so much larger than the others. I see Mike is using T6 surface sculpturing and
and such things, but the the size is gonna be the the key variable. I don't see
him giving a size here, but I think we do in the in the Discover life features.
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Droege, Sam
And he has the the tubercles. So these are the the little bumps on the four
coxy are obscure or absent versus forming little triangular mounds in Montego.
Those are hard to see, particularly in curled up specimens, and you have to get
the angle right. But when we're looking here on the.
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Droege, Sam
Uh.
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Droege, Sam
On the screen.
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Droege, Sam
Oops Avenger 2, the one here. Take this back down.
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Droege, Sam
Take this in.
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Droege, Sam
And oops, it's back here.
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Droege, Sam
The specimen is large and it's got a very.
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Droege, Sam
Long virtex. So unusual is the length of this vertex. Back to the back of the
head, compared to the distance between the two celli.
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Droege, Sam
Bring this up a little bit.
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Droege, Sam
It's also has a distinct amber color to it, compared to the very much more black
and white of Montenegro and the other species. Let's go back to what Mike talks
about here and when he's looking at this, he's talking about the T6 surface.
We're gonna look at that and montega too, but we'll take a check here.
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Droege, Sam
The and this is something the T6 surface above the flange, which is not the
true rim but above the flange is an area that in all of these we're going to
want to take a look and see what's going on. So here when you get to
intermission.
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Droege, Sam
So in separating montega from intermission is and in this into the long vertex.
Is this obscure securely pitted rather than distinctly pitted area on T6?
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Droege, Sam
And he has front bezel, tarsal hairs, longer variable length, but those would
be trickier to see. Let's take a look at T6.
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Droege, Sam
Of this monster.
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Droege, Sam
And you can see this will be quite different. We're going to show Montego next.
Can see here. Here's the flange. The true rim, as in many of these male
magically lies below here. And you see. And I'm gonna run up the magnification
that.
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Droege, Sam
It's really difficult to discern anything more than a few widely spaced vague
pits here and there, and that's gonna be quite a bit different.
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Droege, Sam
However, sighs alone should be.
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Droege, Sam
Indicative of that species inermis.
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Droege, Sam
Then.
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Droege, Sam
The all the other.
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Droege, Sam
Ones in that group. So I'm gonna pull up Monte Vega.
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Droege, Sam
It's half the size, at least of this one.
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Droege, Sam
Yeah, but it's.
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Droege, Sam
Let's take a look at its vertex here. Take off these tags.
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Droege, Sam
And see how it.
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Droege, Sam
Compares in terms of length of that vertex.
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Droege, Sam
Should be a lot shorter in fact.
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Droege, Sam
Let me just run it up a little bit so it's easier to see.
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Droege, Sam
What we're looking at here, in addition to the much smaller size is if you look
at this distance here, it's actually greater than the distance from the back of
the ocelli.
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Droege, Sam
That focus back to the silly to the edge of the head, the vertex they would be
called. So that's one measure that discriminates all of these from.
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Droege, Sam
Inermis but now.
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Droege, Sam
Monte Vega is often confused with the other.
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Droege, Sam
To that, we're going to show next relative and.
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Droege, Sam
Some tuquerres.
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Droege, Sam
Are non-native species, so let's I'm gonna tilt this even more.
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Droege, Sam
Oftentimes in this group, the.
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Droege, Sam
Tip of the abdomen really gets curled under.
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Droege, Sam
And separating this from many of the other ones we were just looking at.
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Droege, Sam
Umm, last time is the fact that this is T6 here is completely bare. So here's
the rim of T5 here. Band on that.
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Droege, Sam
Has all of them pretty much have now, if you recall, what we were looking at in
intermix, this is quite different. So this is heavily pitted, almost contiguous
or contiguous. So the pits are immediately adjacent to one another.
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Droege, Sam
Far, far different from intermixed, but size and that vertex character really
differentiate that this Monte Vega is trickier now to differentiate from the
Relativa and Centennial Lerris specimen. And so the key here.
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Droege, Sam
Is to when when we're looking back here is the fact that this pitting is
detailed. I can see every single one of the pits. And when I compare it to T5,
which we're gonna bend a little bit. So you get a better shot. Those pits are
roughly the same size. So the T5 pits and the T6 pits are about the same size
and.
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Droege, Sam
Additionally.
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Droege, Sam
They're very distinct. They're not murky. It's not difficult to tell them
apart, and cintula areas in particular. It can be so, shall we say.
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Droege, Sam
Bring this back down.
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Droege, Sam
Yet the specimen in there.
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Droege, Sam
There we go.
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Droege, Sam
So we're going to look now at T5.
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Droege, Sam
Which is.
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Droege, Sam
This last one that's visible so in other specimens at don't curl under so much.
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Droege, Sam
The last segment would be T6, but this is actually at 5 here.
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Droege, Sam
The lighting, which I might try and change a wee bit is.
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Droege, Sam
Dark.
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Droege, Sam
Let's see if I can bring in the lights a little bit closer here.
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Droege, Sam
And it's not something that we're not looking at side to side and whatnot
changing it back and forth, but the point here is that this these pits are
about the same size as the pits.
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Droege, Sam
And in terms of diameter, size and shape, eyes on.
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Droege, Sam
T6 below for this species. Additionally on the face.
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Droege, Sam
Which in this specimen I believe is not visible. We're gonna look.
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Droege, Sam
We have a lot of hair, like all homeless home and Kylie have lots of hair on
the face.
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Droege, Sam
And what we want to try and investigate, and sometimes you might take a pin and
scrape this off as what's going on in the center of the rim and relativa.
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Droege, Sam
You'll see.
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Droege, Sam
A quite a stout.
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Droege, Sam
I don't know if it never has that, but a quite a stealth projecting knob coming
out of there in Montego, there can be some boats in the area, but it's not
gonna be the same size and shape. We'll see this in the relative specimen and
I'd have to shave this off and often that's a thing you can do is you can take
a pin, rub that off. I'm not going to do it here and you'll see much less
architecture.
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Droege, Sam
Then in Relativa comparatively, Montega is yet again larger than relativa and
about the same I'd say as sentence hilaris.
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Droege, Sam
But it is.
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Droege, Sam
Being is back on.
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Droege, Sam
It is bigger.
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Droege, Sam
So this much in a much more subtle way than between this species and inermis.
It averages larger and relativa is a quite a small bee, often about the size.
It's the probably the closest of the native naked Kylie to our friend.
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Droege, Sam
Proton data concinna and.
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Droege, Sam
Whatever the last one is that I can't remember from that we're invading from
Europe.
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Droege, Sam
So first thing I'm gonna do is take this relativa specimen, and I'm gonna show
you the if I should be visible. I checked it out before and the IT usually
peaking out because the hair is just a little bit.
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Droege, Sam
Less and the central stout spine is usually.
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Droege, Sam
More prominent? It's dark. Usual dark specimen problem, but this is the the
central knob that's coming out of the clip. Real rim of relativa.
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Droege, Sam
I'm going to show you a different specimen cause I've got a couple more handy.
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Droege, Sam
The.
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Droege, Sam
To look at that because that NOB, is this a good distinction?
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Droege, Sam
For.
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Droege, Sam
The specimen.
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Droege, Sam
So.
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Droege, Sam
Stand.
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Droege, Sam
And.
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Droege, Sam
Here's the knob peeking out again right there.
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Droege, Sam
We're going to change the angle.
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Droege, Sam
So that perhaps it will be highlighted a tiny bit more.
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Droege, Sam
In this angle.
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Droege, Sam
A little bit.
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Droege, Sam
So there is a center of the mandibles. There's a center of clipeus. There's the
knob coming out again, a little bit of pin work to move those hairs away would
reveal that more.
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Droege, Sam
Similar.
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Droege, Sam
To.
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Droege, Sam
Month avago. If we go and take a look at the T6 and T.
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Droege, Sam
5 comparing the two.
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Droege, Sam
We'll see very distinct pitting, so the pits are discernible, unlike an
intermission.
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Droege, Sam
And a bit more in Montego. So here we can see T5 pretty well already there
relativa though.
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Droege, Sam
The hits the pitting on T5 averages larger than on.
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Droege, Sam
T6 do I have that right? Let me. I'm going to switch to discover life here and
double check my wording on this, so here's the Discover Life Guide. We have a
set of characters for those three there relativa small.
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Droege, Sam
We'll talk about the clause in a second.
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Droege, Sam
But because that's really a Centennial Harris.
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Droege, Sam
OHS.
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Droege, Sam
Uh, a character?
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Droege, Sam
Uh, thank you, Corey, for that one clip his rim when viewed and on with the
small stout knob, OK, we looked at that and can have smaller knobs on either
side. You definitely would have to move the hairs out of the way T6.
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Droege, Sam
Is shiny and covered in medium sized pits, moderately dense and similar in size
and density to those on T5. So I think I misspoke that the on Montego, let's
just look the pits on T6 are smaller and you can tell it's pretty.
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Droege, Sam
It's a subtle difference. So on T6, the uh covered in tiny, closely packed pits
on T6, much smaller than those on T5. So theoretically montega the differences.
0:20:38.980 --> 0:20:47.570
Droege, Sam
Uh, smaller on T6 and not on T7 and relativa it is that they are the same.
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Droege, Sam
But you can see that I was already confused between the two. So theoretically
we should see this. This way the knob is so much nicer to work with that these
pits should be about the size as I spin this specimen.
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Droege, Sam
Of.
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Droege, Sam
TV 6.
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Droege, Sam
And.
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Droege, Sam
Dirty specimen.
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Droege, Sam
A little bit difficult to say.
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Droege, Sam
That's why I said tricky group, because it's.
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Droege, Sam
Subtle. So the combination of small, clear pits, there's clearly pitting there,
it should in theory be about the same size as on T5 and a stout knob.
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Droege, Sam
And a more southern distribution too would equal.
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Droege, Sam
Uh relativa, although at the moment I'm not sure what Montague is distribution
is to the South, we can look that up if we have time, but I'm trying to get
through at least a visual on all of these. I think we'll do that. So now.
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Droege, Sam
We'll go to. Ohh yeah, we're we're making good time.
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Droege, Sam
So let me just check.
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Droege, Sam
How much for how much time do we have left? We can't see a clock on this.
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Droege, Sam
OK.
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Maffei, Clare J
Yeah, you're plenty of time. It's only 123.
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Droege, Sam
Oh my gosh. OK.
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Droege, Sam
Right. So maybe it's because Mike and I tend to talk.
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Droege, Sam
So much.
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Droege, Sam
But.
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Droege, Sam
Now when we go to sintang queries.
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Droege, Sam
Let's see what Mike says about Saint Unquera. So he's divining them between
relative and sanctuaries in this case. So he's looking so here. Relativa
margin, anterior margin or rim of the clippies. Has that median tubercle? That
little bump? And in Kentucky, illeris without any small tubercles. So that
that's a really good way of discerning the two. And he discerning.
0:23:0.190 --> 0:23:26.560
Droege, Sam
The montega all the way up here where he says T6 surface obscurely punctate and
I would disagree. A montega does have clear pits, but I think Relativa does
too. So as we just saw. So let's take a look T6 prepal Karina entire without a
weak notch or concavity. OK, so we can look for.
0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:39.650
Droege, Sam
A notch in her margination in the flange or the pre. Apical Corina on the rim
so we're we're pulling out and then we'll bring in this other.
0:23:41.390 --> 0:23:47.580
Droege, Sam
Character that Corey Sheffield likes and is visible but again.
0:23:48.710 --> 0:23:53.400
Droege, Sam
Another slightly tricky one that he talks about with some Junqueras.
0:23:54.540 --> 0:23:55.350
Droege, Sam
Which is.
0:23:56.580 --> 0:24:26.180
Droege, Sam
That the the outer claw and the and the and which is the has a 2 teeth. The
longer tooth on the hind leg is rounded over and blunt and not pointed, and in
comparison to the inner tooth and across the other teeth and other species too.
So we'll return to that. But right now we want to look at the what Mike is
talking about here, which is that the.
0:24:26.500 --> 0:24:40.90
Droege, Sam
Be able rim so that secondary flange on T6 is entire and doesn't have a the
usual notch or a margination chunked out of it, so I'll go to the microscope.
0:24:42.190 --> 0:24:43.340
Droege, Sam
Get this in here.
0:24:44.730 --> 0:24:46.770
Droege, Sam
It also tends to be a.
0:24:47.570 --> 0:24:53.160
Droege, Sam
Species specimen that is on the yellowish end of the spectrum.
0:24:54.800 --> 0:25:0.510
Droege, Sam
And often dark hairs, although neither Mike and I use that in the.
0:25:1.170 --> 0:25:5.190
Droege, Sam
Mayo guy. But in the female guide, the presence of long, dark hairs.
0:25:6.530 --> 0:25:7.200
Droege, Sam
On.
0:25:7.850 --> 0:25:8.820
Droege, Sam
In the region of.
0:25:9.720 --> 0:25:15.260
Droege, Sam
T6 is used in the ID or T5 I guess there.
0:25:16.170 --> 0:25:17.880
Droege, Sam
So we'll go back here.
0:25:19.570 --> 0:25:22.100
Droege, Sam
Take down the magnification.
0:25:24.860 --> 0:25:25.970
Droege, Sam
Take a look at.
0:25:27.940 --> 0:25:33.650
Droege, Sam
The admin as is usually the case, it's curved over.
0:25:36.500 --> 0:25:37.580
Droege, Sam
And.
0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.480
Droege, Sam
So it's hard to see here.
0:25:43.770 --> 0:25:52.90
Droege, Sam
And this is my only specimen. I believe I might have to turn this a little bit.
I believe this is the rim of.
0:25:53.540 --> 0:26:21.330
Droege, Sam
T5 and this is the Corina that we're trying to see of T6 and they have to bend
this again here and it's not gone any central notch to it, it's entire and it's
slightly convex. Whereas Wolf switch back to relative and there should be a
imagination or notch out of the middle of that. I'm gonna change this a little
bit in terms of the angle.
0:26:22.360 --> 0:26:25.630
Droege, Sam
See if that's helps us see.
0:26:26.420 --> 0:26:29.230
Droege, Sam
The uh, yeah, that's better. OK.
0:26:30.370 --> 0:26:59.460
Droege, Sam
So you can see some black hairs in here too, which is possibly unique, but we
haven't done the comparison. But you see what we're looking at rim of T5.
Here's T6. This is that apical flange. Underneath is the true rim which we
can't totally can't see now. And this rim of this flange, which under many
species most species would have a central emerging nation or.
0:26:59.530 --> 0:27:2.970
Droege, Sam
Cut out if you will, and the center does not.
0:27:4.800 --> 0:27:8.40
Droege, Sam
Mike Swording makes me think that perhaps.
0:27:9.440 --> 0:27:10.590
Droege, Sam
There is.
0:27:11.430 --> 0:27:20.190
Droege, Sam
They exceptions to that, but I'm going to bring back relative and then we're
gonna go well, actually not. Let's look at the Hein.
0:27:22.90 --> 0:27:26.430
Droege, Sam
Behind leg characteristics. So what we're looking for?
0:27:27.550 --> 0:27:41.670
Droege, Sam
Here is. So this is this is basically it says it's small according to the
literature, but I find that sometimes hilarious is average is a little bit
bigger than relativa.
0:27:42.620 --> 0:27:59.940
Droege, Sam
Uh, so we're looking at the hind leg and we're looking at the claws and we're
going to compare the ends of the tips of those claws. And they've got a
specimen that I think will behave such that we can see these things.
0:28:3.50 --> 0:28:27.810
Droege, Sam
Let's get this in focus and get our correct shot, alright? I wanted to hang.
That's we're going to be. This should be behind leg and there's the claws. But
it's at a slight angle. What we're looking for is that longer tooth of the
two-part claw being rounded or blunted over. But let me change the angle.
0:28:28.700 --> 0:28:30.680
Droege, Sam
On this so that.
0:28:31.380 --> 0:28:35.700
Droege, Sam
We can see it in lateral view. Look, that's the lateral view.
0:28:39.700 --> 0:28:40.770
Droege, Sam
OK so.
0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:47.940
Droege, Sam
Theoretically that would be good, but I'm gonna move it again and see if.
0:28:49.50 --> 0:28:50.40
Droege, Sam
We can get that.
0:28:52.610 --> 0:28:54.780
Droege, Sam
Properly set up.
0:29:7.40 --> 0:29:15.910
Droege, Sam
OK, so just want to make sure I'm looking at the hind leg 4 middle hind there
it is again. Did I get the?
0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:25.310
Droege, Sam
Umm, not quite. Let me try it one more time and it tilts it all the way over.
0:29:30.40 --> 0:29:31.150
Droege, Sam
It is a small.
0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:33.630
Droege, Sam
Word of the bee.
0:29:46.670 --> 0:29:55.780
Droege, Sam
So 4 middle back and there the I'm putting the X on there. That should be our
shot that we want to see.
0:29:59.230 --> 0:30:0.180
Droege, Sam
And.
0:30:3.540 --> 0:30:5.80
Droege, Sam
What we're looking for?
0:30:6.160 --> 0:30:11.480
Droege, Sam
Is a slightly blunter tip, and I'm going to.
0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:24.130
Droege, Sam
Change the lighting on here so that we can see it a bit better. So just wanna
make sure I'm looking at. I don't use that character very much, but so let's
make sure I get this right.
0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:35.0
Droege, Sam
Uh, the outer and longer tooth of the claws of the highlight much more rounded
over him, blunt on the tip than the inner tooth of the cloth. OK, that's what
we're looking for. Should be there. We need more light.
0:30:37.930 --> 0:30:46.80
Droege, Sam
Let's get some more light here and go up to 400. OK, that is good.
0:30:54.130 --> 0:30:55.680
Droege, Sam
Ooh, still.
0:30:57.370 --> 0:31:4.210
Droege, Sam
Alright, we want to tilt it even further over, so there's basically the tip and
of the front one. And there's the hind.
0:31:5.590 --> 0:31:6.440
Droege, Sam
The shorter one.
0:31:7.790 --> 0:31:11.420
Droege, Sam
They need to bring it more towards me, I think.
0:31:14.230 --> 0:31:17.740
Droege, Sam
It's so much simpler when you have it in your hands.
0:31:21.90 --> 0:31:23.720
Droege, Sam
You know, of course, the light is completely blown out.
0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:35.30
Droege, Sam
Is that the hind leg that we are looking at here?
0:31:37.180 --> 0:31:38.640
Droege, Sam
I don't know if this works on the others.
0:31:39.450 --> 0:31:41.550
Droege, Sam
Let's pretend that's the hind leg.
0:31:43.420 --> 0:31:51.810
Droege, Sam
And theoretically, this tip should be blunter than that tip doesn't quite look
so, so maybe we don't have the highlight.
0:31:54.690 --> 0:31:55.710
Droege, Sam
Involved.
0:31:58.160 --> 0:31:59.110
Droege, Sam
Go back all the way down.
0:32:3.980 --> 0:32:11.630
Droege, Sam
And I think I'm going to. It's not. It's still a tricky character. So I think
I'm gonna. I can't get it in.
0:32:12.490 --> 0:32:16.630
Droege, Sam
Satisfactory view. This must be behind like here.
0:32:17.540 --> 0:32:19.50
Droege, Sam
Going over to there.
0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.730
Droege, Sam
Wanna stop? Rather than waste everyone's time here trying to find it.
0:32:38.970 --> 0:32:41.750
Droege, Sam
You there or I am just making?
0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.130
Droege, Sam
Matters worse when I try to.
0:32:46.940 --> 0:32:48.890
Droege, Sam
Find the tip of the claw.
0:32:50.910 --> 0:32:55.230
Droege, Sam
Right. I'm just gonna take the light back down so I can see something.
0:32:57.390 --> 0:32:58.180
Droege, Sam
And then.
0:33:16.20 --> 0:33:22.410
Droege, Sam
I may give up because it looks like again, I keep turning it the wrong
direction to see.
0:33:23.540 --> 0:33:27.190
Droege, Sam
The tarsal segments, that's possibly what we are looking at there.
0:33:28.150 --> 0:33:36.80
Droege, Sam
Umm this oh, there it is. OK, so let's get that centered. Let's bump up the.
0:33:37.420 --> 0:33:42.420
Droege, Sam
The magnification and I'm going to change the lighting.
0:33:43.180 --> 0:33:46.850
Droege, Sam
And we'll see if we like this character or not.
0:33:49.350 --> 0:33:51.200
Droege, Sam
Have this admit that.
0:33:52.60 --> 0:33:53.170
Droege, Sam
I've struggled with it.
0:33:56.930 --> 0:33:58.760
Droege, Sam
OK, so theoretically.
0:34:1.100 --> 0:34:2.380
Droege, Sam
The outer.
0:34:3.760 --> 0:34:7.280
Droege, Sam
One is blunter than the inner one.
0:34:8.460 --> 0:34:10.670
Droege, Sam
It doesn't seem my notion.
0:34:11.740 --> 0:34:12.800
Droege, Sam
Not particularly.
0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:14.340
Droege, Sam
So.
0:34:15.690 --> 0:34:19.240
Droege, Sam
I think it's better to go with the T6 characters.
0:34:20.310 --> 0:34:34.50
Droege, Sam
And the lack of the the knob on that first, and don't hilarious almost always.
I've never seen them away from the inner city like may have though. Is anyone
else had experience with that particular one?
0:34:40.100 --> 0:34:40.570
Droege, Sam
So.
0:34:42.60 --> 0:34:59.610
Droege, Sam
We can go back. We have a little bit of time. I think we can go back and review
some of these others. We can go back to camp and I have them pull Campanelli
and exilus specimens. Or are there other questions about this last resin using
group of males?
0:35:5.60 --> 0:35:7.130
Maffei, Clare J
You are all welcome to unmute.
0:35:12.570 --> 0:35:18.660
Droege, Sam
Alright, well, I will say, OK, I'm just gonna go back and we'll look at.
0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:24.0
Droege, Sam
The Campanula exilus characters again from last week.
0:35:25.80 --> 0:35:28.470
Droege, Sam
And review that.
0:35:29.950 --> 0:35:35.760
Droege, Sam
I've got a special look at some of the hair pattern things that Mike has
included in his guide.
0:35:38.770 --> 0:35:40.940
Droege, Sam
So I'm going to take out.
0:35:45.290 --> 0:35:48.520
Droege, Sam
Speak out this sentence hilarious specimen and put it away.
0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:51.290
Droege, Sam
Does not get lost.
0:35:57.880 --> 0:35:59.680
Droege, Sam
Going zylus.
0:36:0.640 --> 0:36:2.750
Droege, Sam
Go to Mike's guide.
0:36:6.210 --> 0:36:14.990
Droege, Sam
And so exilus, we have basically a shorter, wider, paler front.
0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:32.290
Droege, Sam
Set of tarsal segments, the four coxa hairs are short and dense, mostly
appressed. But when we compare the tool, you'll see that the in comparison,
it's easy in isolation, it is not so much.
0:36:33.220 --> 0:36:47.540
Droege, Sam
And then in the the height based targets hairs are quite nice, quite a bit
longer than the width of the basitar. So let's find our specimen. See we're at
100. That's pretty good.
0:36:52.590 --> 0:36:54.20
Droege, Sam
All right. What are we looking at here?
0:36:56.460 --> 0:36:58.230
Droege, Sam
OK, good.
0:36:59.60 --> 0:37:29.170
Droege, Sam
So I'm gonna Jack this up. This is a nice shot. First of all, you see that
these tubercles are very short. There's still a little, you know, they're
prominent, but they're not spine like, like in the other species. So here's the
front coxa. And you can see this is quite a lot and quite dense hair. But when
you see the other one, you'll see that it's. It also has quite a bit of hair
too. But in comparison, if I recall right, Exilus, which this one is.
0:37:29.510 --> 0:37:35.870
Droege, Sam
Is God a denser and more oppressed, or laying down hairs than the other one?
0:37:36.930 --> 0:38:7.680
Droege, Sam
So we're also looking at the obliquely at least the front Coxwell segments. I'm
gonna turn this so you can see these better, but you can bit see that the front
coxy here are more concave on the underside. So if we were to look on the back,
which would be in this region, you'll see that this is much more hollowed out.
And yeah, there's paleness to the coxal segments that are not present.
0:38:7.940 --> 0:38:8.970
Droege, Sam
In the.
0:38:12.90 --> 0:38:18.600
Droege, Sam
Yeah. Anyway, so let me change the angle here. Let's see if we can get that in
place.
0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:20.870
Droege, Sam
Sit down.
0:38:25.890 --> 0:38:27.910
Droege, Sam
Get a good angle on those.
0:38:29.970 --> 0:38:30.670
Droege, Sam
Thanks to you.
0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:39.740
Droege, Sam
I seem to have turned it.
0:38:41.340 --> 0:38:43.710
Droege, Sam
Such that everything is hidden.
0:38:44.580 --> 0:38:45.910
Droege, Sam
Let's try the opposite directions.
0:38:55.900 --> 0:38:59.170
Droege, Sam
You see it a little little bit better. I didn't change it that much here.
0:39:2.440 --> 0:39:8.500
Droege, Sam
But if we're looking at the front Coxwell segments, so you can get a better
feel for the fact that.
0:39:9.950 --> 0:39:11.90
Droege, Sam
It's not completely dark.
0:39:11.710 --> 0:39:36.60
Droege, Sam
But nor is it bright yellow or anything like that, so here's we're looking at
the hindsight here of the front coxy, and you can see the paleness and the how
hollow it is. I want to show you the front side so you can get a a notion of
the which I think I'm going to do from this side. The notion of how it is
shorter. The front basil tarsal segment.
0:39:36.810 --> 0:39:37.780
Droege, Sam
Is shorter.
0:39:39.370 --> 0:39:41.310
Droege, Sam
And then we'll also take a look at.
0:39:42.850 --> 0:39:44.530
Droege, Sam
The long hairs.
0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:46.870
Droege, Sam
On the hind based Tarsis.
0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:58.310
Droege, Sam
And the specimen?
0:40:11.700 --> 0:40:16.590
Droege, Sam
No, I'm just not doing great on my angles here.
0:40:19.260 --> 0:40:21.270
Droege, Sam
May have optimally hidden.
0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:27.860
Droege, Sam
The things we do, I have another specimen. I do. I'm gonna switch specimens
for.
0:40:30.630 --> 0:40:31.390
Droege, Sam
Desilus.
0:40:32.350 --> 0:40:38.360
Droege, Sam
And go to the line basil commercial hairs and then.
0:40:40.570 --> 0:40:41.700
Droege, Sam
To the.
0:40:50.630 --> 0:40:51.460
Droege, Sam
When taxi again.
0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:54.30
Droege, Sam
All right.
0:40:54.910 --> 0:40:56.180
Droege, Sam
Jump this in here.
0:41:9.550 --> 0:41:27.520
Droege, Sam
So 4 middle hind legs and here's the tarsal segment. the OR tarsal segments
here. This is the base of tarsi and what we're looking at is the fact that it
has quite long hairs and get Campanula specimen out.
0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:36.590
Droege, Sam
Umm, that are far wider than the width of the kind based Tarsis, so you can see
all the hairs coming off there pretty easily.
0:41:37.820 --> 0:41:46.840
Droege, Sam
Now let's see if we can see get a better shot of the front Coxwell. Ohh, we
might be in luck here.
0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:50.370
Droege, Sam
So yeah.
0:41:52.210 --> 0:42:13.180
Droege, Sam
What we're looking at is are the front tarsal segments. Here's the front bezel
tarsi. Here's a tarsus are the yeah, the tarsus. And you can see here from this
side. So we're looking at the underside. The other time, which is quite curved
under that. This is wider than the front.
0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:16.910
Droege, Sam
Tarsus and.
0:42:19.240 --> 0:42:27.60
Droege, Sam
It you can see, even though there's a lot of white hair, you can see the
paleness coming through in places. But again it's not.
0:42:27.820 --> 0:42:30.230
Droege, Sam
It's not dramatically paler, but.
0:42:31.310 --> 0:42:35.820
Droege, Sam
Probably when you turn it over, you'll see that it's not neither is it all
dark.
0:42:36.780 --> 0:42:54.930
Droege, Sam
So this distance here to here is a lot shorter and I might be at a slight angle
here, but might puts it as two times broad as long I find that comparison
between the width here and the width there to be more revealing in the.
0:42:56.220 --> 0:43:7.20
Droege, Sam
Other specimen of Campanelli the distance was about the same or even less
between the tool to.
0:43:8.660 --> 0:43:11.970
Droege, Sam
All right, so let's switch to Campanelli.
0:43:13.660 --> 0:43:15.340
Droege, Sam
And see if we see these.
0:43:17.70 --> 0:43:20.360
Droege, Sam
Characters there make sure you don't mix these up.
0:43:33.180 --> 0:43:34.330
Droege, Sam
So we'll go to the.
0:43:35.540 --> 0:43:36.580
Droege, Sam
Personal segments.
0:43:40.150 --> 0:43:41.670
Droege, Sam
Here and believe we've.
0:43:42.820 --> 0:43:43.670
Droege, Sam
Nailed it.
0:43:45.330 --> 0:43:50.870
Droege, Sam
So when we look here at the hind basitar ISIS and change the angle a little
bit, so it's.
0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:53.800
Droege, Sam
We're at right angles to our view.
0:43:54.480 --> 0:44:8.610
Droege, Sam
You can see that the hairs are not nearly as long as the one in exilus, and
that the distance here is about the same, maybe even slightly less than the
width across of the entire base of Tarsis.
0:44:14.870 --> 0:44:18.720
Droege, Sam
Another character to look at now if we go.
0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:22.190
Droege, Sam
Luckily.
0:44:23.410 --> 0:44:25.180
Droege, Sam
To the front.
0:44:26.430 --> 0:44:32.260
Droege, Sam
Cox says in area, let's see if we can get a peek inside there. I'm gonna turn
upside down.
0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:38.430
Droege, Sam
And see if we can see some of these differences in the hair pattern.
0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:43.930
Droege, Sam
On the front.
0:44:45.70 --> 0:44:49.180
Droege, Sam
Coxey. So the most basal segment of the legs.
0:44:50.420 --> 0:44:55.920
Droege, Sam
The legs are folded over and there's some tongue action going on here, but I
believe we can kind of see.
0:44:56.890 --> 0:44:59.0
Droege, Sam
Some of what's going on?
0:44:59.870 --> 0:45:30.260
Droege, Sam
You also get the point that really it's a good comparative thing. So this is
the front coxy right here. There's the, you know, residual spine or tubercle.
And the hairs are still cover the entire surface. They're simply longer and a
bit shaggier and not as dense as in exilus. And this is a good shot here,
though, of the.
0:45:30.530 --> 0:45:31.350
Droege, Sam
Front.
0:45:37.330 --> 0:45:40.330
Droege, Sam
Tarsal segments and basic Tarsis.
0:45:42.990 --> 0:45:43.750
Droege, Sam
And.
0:45:44.390 --> 0:45:59.300
Droege, Sam
What you're seeing, first of all, it's all dark. This is skinnier the front
first base of tarsal segment is longer. Now by huge amounts though, and that's
why I have found it useful. Let's see if I can shift this a bit.
0:46:0.180 --> 0:46:3.410
Droege, Sam
To think about it in terms of.
0:46:4.480 --> 0:46:9.910
Droege, Sam
In comparison to the tarsus, so the width here.
0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:19.870
Droege, Sam
In the front, visitors see is less than the width, or about the same depends on
the angle of the.
0:46:21.490 --> 0:46:23.20
Droege, Sam
Of the front charges.
0:46:25.240 --> 0:46:26.400
Droege, Sam
So.
0:46:27.590 --> 0:46:31.70
Droege, Sam
I think that's that's what I got. Any questions?
0:46:37.90 --> 0:46:38.70
Maffei, Clare J
Now, don't be shy.
0:46:33.390 --> 0:46:38.200
Droege, Sam
Bring them up to next week if you want your tricky specimens.
0:46:40.780 --> 0:46:56.790
Droege, Sam
Also, if you want, if you have the ability to take pictures, you can take a
series of pictures of your what is this? Or am I looking at the right thing and
that will be helpful to Mike and myself. If you actually have a a system that.
0:46:57.490 --> 0:47:3.250
Droege, Sam
Will project onto your computer. It means probably we can also see that.
0:47:9.30 --> 0:47:9.450
Maffei, Clare J
Yeah.
0:47:4.190 --> 0:47:10.860
Droege, Sam
When we share the screen with you, if that's possible, is that possible clear?
Can someone who's not? Yeah. OK.
0:47:10.770 --> 0:47:20.200
Maffei, Clare J
Umm, I mean, well, we could do it. I mean, if you are like, I see David's on
Dave, if you want to like connect. I don't know if you're camera connects or
anything.
0:47:21.20 --> 0:47:24.150
Maffei, Clare J
Umm. Which is like LinkedIn. If you have a.
0:47:24.570 --> 0:47:24.910
Droege, Sam
Yeah.
0:47:29.710 --> 0:47:30.50
Droege, Sam
Yeah.
0:47:25.220 --> 0:47:37.590
Maffei, Clare J
Microscope and a camera. But even if you just have PowerPoint or something up,
I can make you a presenter and we can do screen sharing. Or I think probably
any participant. Actually I can give them authority to do that.
0:47:38.730 --> 0:47:42.780
Maffei, Clare J
So we could do, yeah, kind of a bring it to the class workshopping.
0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:44.270
Maffei, Clare J
Style.
0:47:48.180 --> 0:47:48.910
Maffei, Clare J
My grad school.
0:47:44.780 --> 0:47:51.960
Droege, Sam
Bring it to the glass and then we have to figure out what our next group next
group is gonna be of.
0:47:51.470 --> 0:48:1.990
Maffei, Clare J
Right. So thoughts, do we want to stay within? Just do the makyla day or move
on to something that people are working on a series of that they could benefit.
0:48:6.290 --> 0:48:9.770
Maffei, Clare J
We've gone through as a reminder, species wise, we've gone through.
0:48:11.340 --> 0:48:12.790
Maffei, Clare J
Quite quite a bit actually.
0:48:13.550 --> 0:48:14.760
Maffei, Clare J
The greens.
0:48:15.740 --> 0:48:19.720
Maffei, Clare J
Hallitus collides Sebastia usera melissodes.
0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.250
Maffei, Clare J
Hyleas hoplite is ask me a mega Kylie.
0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:29.110
Droege, Sam
We still have some really other like monster groups, Lazy Blossom and Drina
collides.
0:48:30.740 --> 0:48:32.960
Maffei, Clare J
Clarence, when the chat, the Drina.
0:48:31.370 --> 0:48:50.410
Droege, Sam
It seems like several more years, several more years of work, but that's OK.
They're here. I think it's useful for a lot of people and ourselves, too. Mike
and I discover, like, Ohh hmm, that's a good character. Or maybe we should get
rid of that.
0:48:52.630 --> 0:48:56.400
Maffei, Clare J
And I was just talking to Rob. He wants to have.
0:48:57.210 --> 0:49:2.940
Maffei, Clare J
So Andrina stuff out by the beginning of the year, so maybe he'll be willing to
bring that to class and workshop it.
0:49:9.120 --> 0:49:10.340
Maffei, Clare J
I think some people are on here.
0:49:2.660 --> 0:49:18.570
Droege, Sam
Oh, yeah, yeah, I should mention that Rob, Jean. David as home. I I'm. I assume
you're talking about. Yeah. And David Biddinger and Margarita from Penn State
are.
0:49:19.190 --> 0:49:31.430
Droege, Sam
Uh, I have a chunk of money now to work on guide development, and David Kappert
has, if I I always has state on your last name, David, but I hope I pronounce
it correctly.
0:49:32.60 --> 0:49:32.650
David Cappaert
Perfect.
0:49:32.810 --> 0:49:51.260
Droege, Sam
Are all good of our also working on ID things and we hope as it Mike and myself
and so we hope to you know continuously upgrade features now we have been and
off to the side working with Karen Wright.
0:49:51.990 --> 0:50:6.380
Droege, Sam
On Melissodes and I believe Dave Bittinger's group is going to tackle the
uploading of all that. It will be big cause it'll be all the species, but only
females. Mikes got a good male guide though for the Midwest.
0:50:7.330 --> 0:50:8.0
Droege, Sam
So.
0:50:8.760 --> 0:50:12.580
Droege, Sam
You know what, what? Another 30-40 years and being good shape.
0:50:15.900 --> 0:50:16.540
Maffei, Clare J
That's what.
0:50:16.450 --> 0:50:32.700
Droege, Sam
And we always invite you guys to send us questions and identify problems. And
if you are interested in your area, that may not be covered right now, we can
work with you to.
0:50:33.610 --> 0:50:34.530
Droege, Sam
Create.
0:50:36.210 --> 0:51:8.620
Droege, Sam
Whatever species group you want to tackle using just the existing literature,
and possibly also by scoring them too. But you know there's a literature out
there for almost all these species and the the identification keys can be
reversed engineered input into discover life pretty easily. So we're doing that
with mikes as we speak in the past, we just got all the specimens in one place
and scored each of them for their characters.
0:51:8.890 --> 0:51:11.780
Droege, Sam
That were group characters, but now we're realizing like.
0:51:13.70 --> 0:51:18.880
Droege, Sam
We can't really do that for every single species and then using some of the
existing keys and then.
0:51:19.940 --> 0:51:22.630
Droege, Sam
Catching up later is A is a good.
0:51:23.430 --> 0:51:25.280
Droege, Sam
Uh. Strategy.
0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:34.710
Droege, Sam
And then, of course, there's Mexico, which would be lovely to have guides
expanded to the South.
0:51:39.40 --> 0:51:43.350
Maffei, Clare J
And I think we have a couple texts Inns in our group here at the very least.
0:51:43.900 --> 0:51:53.550
Droege, Sam
Yeah. So West TX, even even big chunks of east and Central Texas need to have a
bunch of species added to their to the guides.
0:51:59.500 --> 0:51:59.800
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:51:57.510 --> 0:52:5.150
Maffei, Clare J
Well, there's nothing going on in the chat. We have a call for Andrina and
another suggestion to just stick with the mega Kayla Day so.
0:52:8.950 --> 0:52:9.530
Droege, Sam
All right.
0:52:6.390 --> 0:52:13.150
Maffei, Clare J
Bring it to class next week. Bring your pictures, your questions and we'll see
you then.
0:52:13.900 --> 0:52:15.570
Droege, Sam
Thanks everyone. Thanks Claire.
0:52:16.530 --> 0:52:17.70
Maffei, Clare J
Hey.