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Maffei, Clare J
What?
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Maffei, Clare J
Go for it.
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Droege, Sam
Alright, I am going to share. So Mike had told us a few were here listening to
Claire and I chat that he has a key apparently written down longhand somewhere,
but he hasn't typed it up, so hopefully at some point we'll see that from Mike.
But for today it probably useful to go back to do some discover life.
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Droege, Sam
Guide work will be going through the mail, making Kylie guide and discover
life. So if you want to jump on that, that'll be good and we'll be using both
the guide and then. I've just use a second.
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Droege, Sam
A second guide that I have loaded in different tab that shows.
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Droege, Sam
Yeah, that has the has feature up so that we can look at what species are
involved with different sets of these, these broad characters. So we're going
through broad characters right now and then we'll neck down to species specific
problem areas too. OK, I'm gonna share.
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Droege, Sam
Year.
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Droege, Sam
And we'll go to.
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Droege, Sam
Discover life guides.
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Droege, Sam
And.
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Droege, Sam
OK. Are we clear? Are we seeing the Discover Life Guide now?
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Maffei, Clare J
You got it.
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Droege, Sam
Alright, let's see. I probably let me go ahead and is it useful to up the?
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Droege, Sam
Uh, the visibility, right?
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Maffei, Clare J
It would be a little bit, yes.
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Droege, Sam
Umm, how do we do that? Is it control plus?
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Droege, Sam
Shiftless.
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Droege, Sam
Pro plus.
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Droege, Sam
Umm.
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Droege, Sam
Not there we go. OK wow.
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Maffei, Clare J
That's probably sufficient. It'll go back one.
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Droege, Sam
OK.
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Maffei, Clare J
There you go.
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Droege, Sam
OK, alright, that's better.
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Droege, Sam
OK. So and then I'm gonna do that to the second copy.
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Droege, Sam
Which is control plus.
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Droege, Sam
Here.
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Droege, Sam
And.
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Droege, Sam
Going back to the first.
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Maffei, Clare J
Control minus that a little bit. I think it did it by itself.
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Droege, Sam
OK, so like that.
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Maffei, Clare J
There you go. Just keep it like that.
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Droege, Sam
Alright, OK. OK. So.
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Droege, Sam
At Discover Life guides, this is to the males we're adding Midwestern stuff and
working with Mike on that.
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Droege, Sam
No, we most of you now have been here long enough. I don't need to cover a lot
of the how TOS on this, but I am going to today emphasize that when we look at
a character, for example this character here T6 center of segment covered in
short, dense appressed hairs, we'll see that. But using the Discover life guides
you can also get a sense it's usually useful to see what the proportion of the
states here the states are just simply no or yes have.
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Droege, Sam
Been scored for having these species, so here we have the more common would be
no hairs on T6 and the less common by about half with hairs and you can tell by
this green #15 here for yes and 34 for no and just again a reminder some
species are scored for both which are the species that are ambiguous and then
you can go and instead of doing this in real time.
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Droege, Sam
Picking up here on has in the guide I'm going to which you would have gotten to
by going to menu. Actually, it may have shown. Anyway, I'm not sure, but if we
go here I have clicked on has and now if I go to that abdomen character.
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Droege, Sam
Abdomen T6. If you gotta find it, there we go. So we have the T6 character. Now
I can actually look up what species have that and this is useful if for example
you want to go to your collection and look at examples of a feature that you
have in in the past or you're at a museum and you want to pick up things. But
the I'm not sure what this box without the any words next to it is, but perhaps
we'll click it later.
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Droege, Sam
Right now I'm kind of constant. Ohh not it's the not box because we've shifted
the the.
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Droege, Sam
Umm. Character size so, but I usually don't bother with not, so that is useful
if you're a logical thinking person I suppose, but I'm going to concentrate on
has here and only so if we click on has that it has here on the segment we see
that 15 here show up again that we saw on the previous died here. So there's
15.
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Droege, Sam
That makes a lot of sense, and so this is every species. The way to think about
this is every species that is scored for having hair on T6.
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Droege, Sam
Umm and I pressed here, so you if you read the whole entire segment now,
though, a lot of times when I'm looking for examples, I'm not going to use has
I'm going to use only.
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Droege, Sam
And only means that here's a smaller set. Sometimes it's quite a bit smaller,
and sometimes it's almost exactly the same. This is pretty close, so, and what
this is telling me that these 12 species have been scored for having here and
have not been scored also for having no hair. So these are for another a way to
talk about this is these are the best examples of specimens that in this case
have here.
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Droege, Sam
On T6 and so I would normally use those.
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Droege, Sam
And I would not use the the larger list of has.
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Droege, Sam
On there.
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Droege, Sam
Because some of those are ambiguous because they are scored for both.
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Droege, Sam
I hope that makes sense. So in this case, we're going back to only and you can
see there's a number here. This is a a very clear character. That's why it's on
the front of the guide and we'll go back here when I can stay on this one and
I'll show you now a shot of Mega, Kylie brevis. And this is this is how it
looks. It's not a very surprising thing. The ambiguous species have a less
dense patch of hair here.
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Droege, Sam
Where it's lightly covered with hair or for whatever reason you might you know,
if you look at it one way, it might be like I think that would be no hair and
another way it would be having hair and that's why the discover life guides are
useful. You you allow ambiguity and you can expand the definitions of what a
species has and doesn't have to include states.
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Droege, Sam
And you click on either the yes or the No, it's going to stay.
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Droege, Sam
So right now, ooh, I'm getting a message. Do we go offline?
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Droege, Sam
Umm.
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Droege, Sam
3.
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Maffei, Clare J
You froze for just a moment, but you're back on.
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Droege, Sam
OK, so I had I had dropped.
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Droege, Sam
Is that what you're saying?
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Maffei, Clare J
No, you would just like your your screen and your voice had frozen, purchased a
second.
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Droege, Sam
OK.
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Droege, Sam
So what do I what? You could hear my voice.
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Maffei, Clare J
Yep, you're all good. Just keep going.
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Droege, Sam
OK, alright. Yeah. So Claire knows that my phone system is down. So yes, ping
me like that on.
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Droege, Sam
Teams or whatever it is, and that'll be a good indication that I'm just talking
to myself.
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Droege, Sam
OK so.
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Maffei, Clare J
Although quick.
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Droege, Sam
Yeah.
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Maffei, Clare J
I just want to put in here when we go, when we flip back to the Discover Life
page, can you show users how to do the how to physically get to the Haas thing
again through the menu links?
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Droege, Sam
Ohk. OK, alright, let's just go back there now. So if I just open a new tab and
I've got a link here as I'm sure all of you do to the ID guide section and
we're going to, we're working on making Kylie mails. So there we go.
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Droege, Sam
Umm.
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Droege, Sam
And so now this is what you would see and all the guys look the same. You don't
see the haze button over here at all. But if you simply click on menu then it
shows up. Now you can click on the has button and you would get to exactly that
second place. You can also use it.
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Droege, Sam
You can also be back at you. Just use the the back arrow or restart, but
restarting would get you back immediately to a blank. Let's call it guide. You
can use those but and has still shows there. Let's see if we click yes so but
has disappears as you start using the guide. So you would have to again click
on the menu to get to has again.
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Droege, Sam
That makes sense.
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Maffei, Clare J
User confirms.
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Droege, Sam
OK, I'm going to delete these extra links and.
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Droege, Sam
Uh, I'm. I'm getting some weird tab up here.
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Droege, Sam
And I want to move that is coming from.
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Droege, Sam
I think teams that's odd.
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Droege, Sam
Why can't I? I don't want it pins. Can I unpin it?
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Droege, Sam
There's so the tabs that I want are hidden now by a.
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Droege, Sam
Weird little black control thing that seemingly.
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Droege, Sam
There we go. OK. It went away. I don't know why.
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Droege, Sam
So we're back in the game.
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Droege, Sam
And we were looking at T6 covered, so I'm not gonna show you the alternative
state because it's just there would be no hairs here. So this face on T6 is
pretty obvious. So if we go to the next character in the guide. So here we are
where we have, we're looking at the abdomen, the upper side and the pattern
we're really talking about the pattern of hair that's on.
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Droege, Sam
The abdomen at that point and there's four different states here, and we'll
talk about each so you can see that this first one with 40 is and it's even
says most commonly occurring state. And then you have a number of lesser.
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Droege, Sam
Umm.
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Droege, Sam
Fewer of of characters that are.
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Droege, Sam
Obtain only by a few species so.
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Droege, Sam
In this first one, it's that basically you have white hair bands going across
the specimen of some kind, and all those hairs are light. So you have a
banding. Sometimes it's at the base, sometimes it's along the rim, but there's
always banding. Sometimes the bands are broken. You only see the hair bands on
the sides and sometimes you see them go completely across. It's nothing. I
think that we need to see. I think we need to spend some time on the
alternatives here and we're going to flip now to our.
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Droege, Sam
Ohh tab that has the.
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Droege, Sam
But the has issues on so we can look at what those species might be. Also, when
using has one common mistake which I fall into all the time is to leave an
orphan only on some character that I was looking at. Click off. I clicked off
this and if I leave that on there it messes things up later on in that it's
trying to do something that makes no sense and you're list of species is
impacted. So we're going though.
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Droege, Sam
To now go to our abdomen.
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Droege, Sam
And here we go. So here we are with this. So if we wanna take a look at this
one here and we look at only what we're looking at is a small list of species,
you'll recognize these as the species or most of the species that have black
scopal hairs. They also have different kinds in the females.
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Droege, Sam
And they also have different kinds of hair patterns in the males. So what we're
looking at is a lack of obvious banding. In fact, they're not really, they
don't have hair bands they have.
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Droege, Sam
Segments of the abdomen that are covered with hairs, some light and some dark.
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Droege, Sam
And that follows this pattern here. So mostly T1 and T2 have light hairs and
the remaining segments have dark hairs and it has no distinct hair bands. So
I've got a specimen here. Let me remove the.
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Droege, Sam
Friendly brevis, which we will certainly come back to.
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Droege, Sam
And talk about all kinds of brevis features.
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Droege, Sam
In terms of identified them, including the fact which I should have shown you
that there were hairs on the rim of.
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Droege, Sam
T5 OK, so now I want to. What do I have here? I have zilla. I have muscida out.
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Droege, Sam
So if we look at Umm, incident specimen.
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Droege, Sam
I'm going to look at.
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Droege, Sam
The hair patterns.
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Droege, Sam
That are very different and I wanna drop the light level down on this.
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Droege, Sam
The traditional dirty specimen, so we break out of being an app view so that I
can change the.
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Droege, Sam
Lighting is like. Here we go. That's a little bit better.
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Droege, Sam
OK, So what we see here is that unlike in the other mega Kylie groups where
there would be distinct white hair bands across, I think anyone who's looked at
any of specimens, they're much more common to would see these. You can go
online and see them. We're just not gonna bother.
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Droege, Sam
Right here you have light hairs and then dark hairs on light hairs on T1 and
T2. No particular banding, they're just covered with white hairs and dark hairs
here. That pattern repeats among these other black scopal hairs groups. Not
surprising, since I believe they're all in the same subgenus.
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Droege, Sam
So that's.
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Droege, Sam
That particular group then we come to another one which has.
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Droege, Sam
Really only one member, and sadly I don't have the specimen. It's at this
Smithsonian. It's got well specimens that I've gotten on various travel. Does
it? Tropical? In fact, it's African. I believe. Maybe Indian subcontinent. I'm
not. Can't quite recall the story. And it's a world traveler. It nests in
holes, apparently, holes in old ships because it's been here for well over 100
years. It had habits. The tip of Florida. I've seen it in the keys.
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Droege, Sam
And in inhabits Hawaii and Cuba and Dominican Republic and the Caribbean port
countries of South America. So I'm not gonna show you because I don't have it.
But in this case, it's a very distinct you one and two, two with really dense,
very, you know, nappy in some ways, yellowish orange hair, often clearly more
towards the orange ends of the spectrum.
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Droege, Sam
And then the.
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Droege, Sam
The remaining segments with a a much lighter banding of of also light colored
hairs and dark bristles on T6, but it's one of those things when you see this,
the specimen you know you have something very different. And also in North
America, you're really only going to run across it and very southern Florida.
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Droege, Sam
So this one though this next group here really only also has one member. So
it's something that.
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Droege, Sam
We would find.
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Droege, Sam
In many species of bees, which is just got, the abdomen, has light colored
hairs without any particular banding associated with them, but it may get
Kylie. It's unusual because almost every other group.
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Droege, Sam
Has.
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Droege, Sam
Clear very white hair bands running across the specimens.
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Droege, Sam
So in this particular one this is I'll I'll turn the sideways too is because
this is hard to see a lot of times. Again, when you have relatively sparse
light, colored hairs, you don't see them well when you look straight down. But
we'll turn this.
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Droege, Sam
To it's side.
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Droege, Sam
And you can see more that the entire.
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Droege, Sam
It's also one of these visual things where the.
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Droege, Sam
If we're looking at it online digitally, it doesn't show as well as under the
microscope where you can bend the specimen back and forth to see.
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Droege, Sam
But what you're seeing here, it's a little bit difficult to pick up a lot of
the hairs in between here, but it's basic.
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Droege, Sam
Doesn't have banding. They're not bright white. They tend to be tanish and they
don't think this is very particularly clear in this specimen gonna bend it a
little bit more.
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Droege, Sam
But.
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Droege, Sam
It presents in most cases as not having any bands at all. Like I'm kind of
surprised to see these these bands down here, because when I'm looking at it,
this is all light colored hairs.
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Droege, Sam
So, but wait a minute. Sorry. No wonder it's not presenting what cause? It's a
female.
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Droege, Sam
8.
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Droege, Sam
Ohh geez, I have the mail here. I thought I had it out.
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Droege, Sam
There we there it is.
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Droege, Sam
All right, let's let's redo this.
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Droege, Sam
OK.
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Droege, Sam
Yeah, I don't look at the. I look at other things with the female, but so here
light colored hairs. It does seem to have some, maybe we have to score it for
both, but it doesn't really have the same presentation. But now that I'm
looking at it and you can make out at least on here.
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Droege, Sam
Some strengthening of the banding along the rims, but most of the rest of the
hair here is all light colored hairs.
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Droege, Sam
That are.
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Droege, Sam
But again, when I'm looking at it under the microscope, it seems to be pretty
clearly just all one big blob of blonde here. But now, maybe I'm thinking,
well, maybe I should go ahead cuz there's other features.
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Droege, Sam
That the specimen has and score it for also.
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Droege, Sam
Having.
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Droege, Sam
Banded.
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Droege, Sam
Here.
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Droege, Sam
Just to decrease the number of errors.
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Droege, Sam
When King things out.
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Droege, Sam
OK. And the last one.
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Droege, Sam
All here dark no distinct hair bands, and we really only have one species,
which is something that I don't even know. I think this is one of the species
that has shown up in Florida. Let's take a look here.
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Droege, Sam
Umm, but I don't know any.
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Droege, Sam
Any recent records like and I've certainly not collected any.
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Droege, Sam
So if anyone knows of recent records of the species, let me know. It's not
anything I'm familiar with so.
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Droege, Sam
We don't have any specimens, sadly.
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Droege, Sam
Alright, so now that I've.
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Droege, Sam
Gone away. I'm gonna go back to.
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Droege, Sam
Here we go. We're back on the has area, so that covers the banding mostly.
What? You're discriminating in the guide are the small little clade of species
that so I'm looking for my specimen here.
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Droege, Sam
Small little clayed of species that.
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Droege, Sam
I have something other than bright white hair bands going across.
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Droege, Sam
Yeah.
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Droege, Sam
Plane of the top of the abdomen. OK, so if we go back.
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Droege, Sam
Here to the guide, the next area down for separating. It has to do with the
pattern of hair on the cheeks so you can see again 3317 sixteen. So this is the
largest category. And I should say that a lot of times, if you're specimens
aren't prepared well, it's difficult to be absolutely confident that you can
tell the differences here because the cheek hair particularly towards the
mandible is often quite thick to begin with. And if it's matted down, it's
like, well, maybe I can, maybe I can't see these furrows so.
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Droege, Sam
A lot of times I have to skip this just because the specimens are mad at at
that point. So if we go now back to the has area and go to, let's see the head.
0:22:37.460 --> 0:22:39.480
Droege, Sam
Area and distinct.
0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:40.860
Droege, Sam
Umm.
0:22:43.870 --> 0:23:13.280
Droege, Sam
Here we go. So this is one of the reasons that we have a pattern to the wording
and discover life guides so that we start with the largest feature head and
then the and then we go down the scale so that when you're looking at the
alphabetization of the in the has character, you can find the character quickly
and also you can find the character from the links at the tops of the guys who.
0:23:13.380 --> 0:23:38.580
Droege, Sam
For example, if we go back here and go to the very top, here's all the links of
everything that's showing on that key, and you can see all the head characters
in one place, which is convenient because and as you become more and more
confident in your use of the guides, you'll often want to just go to 1
character because you know that it's gotta be one of the species within that
group.
0:23:39.460 --> 0:23:41.880
Droege, Sam
OK, so back here.
0:23:42.670 --> 0:23:46.440
Droege, Sam
And and we're on sheet thickness if we go.
0:23:47.410 --> 0:23:49.680
Droege, Sam
You know, to the has one.
0:23:51.890 --> 0:24:7.100
Droege, Sam
And so this is of hair gradually increasing. We look at only having that it's
quite an extensive list. Oops, I must have left something else on like this.
See, this is where the problems coming.
0:24:8.770 --> 0:24:16.310
Droege, Sam
But you can still press any of the search buttons, so here we have a fairly
long list. These are relatively common species.
0:24:17.10 --> 0:24:21.960
Droege, Sam
And we'll have thickness of hair. I think I should have brevis.
0:24:23.630 --> 0:24:32.620
Droege, Sam
Specimen here will do to show you a cheap pattern that is relatively uniform.
0:24:39.10 --> 0:24:40.860
Droege, Sam
Unless it's cheek.
0:24:46.610 --> 0:24:50.20
Droege, Sam
So it gradually and this would be the case for.
0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:53.700
Droege, Sam
So, always as far as I know.
0:24:55.900 --> 0:24:59.690
Droege, Sam
Here on the cheek starts out.
0:25:1.750 --> 0:25:29.480
Droege, Sam
Then towards the top of the eye here and then becomes thicker and thicker. Why?
That's a good question. I have no idea towards the mandible and in this case it
just gradually thickens. There's no sharp demarcation, nor is there these two
furrows that we'll see in one second. So that's brevis. That's what you're
seeing, probably in 99% or maybe 95% of the specimens you get because this is.
0:25:30.420 --> 0:25:33.340
Droege, Sam
The common state among common species.
0:25:34.990 --> 0:25:35.720
Droege, Sam
Bring that back.
0:25:36.740 --> 0:25:41.70
Droege, Sam
It slipped back here and we look at this character.
0:25:43.150 --> 0:25:47.220
Droege, Sam
Where we have both an abrupt shift.
0:25:49.650 --> 0:25:51.160
Droege, Sam
And OK.
0:25:52.340 --> 0:25:53.310
Droege, Sam
Should be.
0:25:55.450 --> 0:25:58.960
Droege, Sam
A bunch of specimens in there. I have left something.
0:25:58.690 --> 0:26:2.410
Maffei, Clare J
You still have two things clicked on that same couplet.
0:26:2.940 --> 0:26:9.890
Droege, Sam
I would do it. Oh, there we go. Yeah. So that's showing that interesting, like
Inimica is scored for both probably.
0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:17.890
Droege, Sam
But now. Thank you, Claire. OK, now I have a list of species here that have.
0:26:19.170 --> 0:26:20.750
Droege, Sam
This character which is.
0:26:21.770 --> 0:26:36.660
Droege, Sam
There's a abrupt shift from short hairs to long hairs, and there's these really
cool little hairless furrow, which often shows up as two bars of hairs, or
three bars of hairs to either side. So let me show you a specimen of frigida.
0:26:39.90 --> 0:26:43.560
Droege, Sam
Here and also show you a secret frigida.
0:26:44.330 --> 0:26:45.220
Droege, Sam
Character.
0:26:46.750 --> 0:26:48.540
Droege, Sam
But first, the cheek cares.
0:26:58.230 --> 0:26:59.460
Droege, Sam
It's been this a little bit.
0:27:7.140 --> 0:27:13.780
Droege, Sam
Look on the other side too. Maybe I want to spin it a little bit so you can see
already the abruptness of the shift.
0:27:15.810 --> 0:27:20.480
Droege, Sam
And I want to show you that the hairless furrow is pretty obvious.
0:27:22.30 --> 0:27:22.420
Droege, Sam
But.
0:27:23.390 --> 0:27:27.970
Droege, Sam
Again, angling with your fingers is the way to go to see these.
0:27:28.660 --> 0:27:29.470
Droege, Sam
Here actors.
0:27:31.770 --> 0:27:40.940
Droege, Sam
Look on the other side too. So here thinner hairs and then we it also
transitions usually to brighter weight. So then there's a.
0:27:41.530 --> 0:27:57.600
Droege, Sam
Umm, the thicker and longer hairs. And then there's a furrow with no hairs.
Why? I have no idea. And then there's another one prior to coming to the
another patch of thick hairs prior to coming to the.
0:28:1.750 --> 0:28:6.320
Droege, Sam
Mandible talking to the other side. See what that offers us.
0:28:8.400 --> 0:28:11.310
Droege, Sam
We can see that these long hairs.
0:28:12.260 --> 0:28:17.70
Droege, Sam
Tend to be very goopy, not you. Don't see it, but let me just point out here
we're looking at.
0:28:17.950 --> 0:28:19.450
Droege, Sam
A very massive.
0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:25.150
Droege, Sam
Mitten like structure, that is the.
0:28:26.100 --> 0:28:27.500
Droege, Sam
Expanded front.
0:28:28.830 --> 0:28:31.480
Droege, Sam
Marcel segments based Tarsis and.
0:28:32.310 --> 0:28:32.820
Droege, Sam
Umm.
0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:39.900
Droege, Sam
Covered in here's this mustache thing here. Running off in this direction and
bright yellow.
0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:42.870
Droege, Sam
That is used during meeting.
0:28:44.660 --> 0:28:46.950
Droege, Sam
And we'll come back to this because.
0:28:48.500 --> 0:28:55.60
Droege, Sam
There's that's. That's very useful. So many species do not have anything close
to that in size.
0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:1.950
Droege, Sam
And some have seemingly no expanded ones at all, so frigid up.
0:29:2.670 --> 0:29:3.940
Droege, Sam
As a character.
0:29:4.700 --> 0:29:6.670
Droege, Sam
That right, prep the specimen.
0:29:7.920 --> 0:29:14.670
Droege, Sam
To show you, that's very cool, but sometimes hard to see because the.
0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:17.240
Droege, Sam
It may be hard to see.
0:29:23.620 --> 0:29:24.330
Droege, Sam
The.
0:29:25.80 --> 0:29:29.990
Droege, Sam
They tend to fold up their legs unless they're spread out, but.
0:29:30.780 --> 0:29:35.870
Droege, Sam
There are two on the inside for anterior edge.
0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:38.890
Droege, Sam
If you will of the.
0:29:40.70 --> 0:29:44.70
Droege, Sam
Teammate of the male front and try and do this.
0:29:45.70 --> 0:29:45.730
Droege, Sam
Gently.
0:29:46.910 --> 0:29:47.940
Droege, Sam
Invoice.
0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.170
Droege, Sam
My skills in a reverse world.
0:29:55.260 --> 0:29:55.810
Droege, Sam
Of.
0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:58.550
Droege, Sam
Every help.
0:29:59.860 --> 0:30:1.430
Droege, Sam
Openness out a little bit.
0:30:2.380 --> 0:30:5.850
Droege, Sam
And what we're going to be looking at Ohh uses a pointer is the femur.
0:30:6.490 --> 0:30:11.540
Droege, Sam
And there's two black stripes inside there that, as far as I know only.
0:30:13.80 --> 0:30:24.950
Droege, Sam
Try not to break it completely off. Only Frigida has someone could tell me if
that's not the case, let's see if we can get a better view of this.
0:30:31.210 --> 0:30:36.120
Droege, Sam
Lovely frigidus specimen. How am I going to do this? Take that label off.
0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.170
Droege, Sam
Be spinning upside down up.
0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:41.150
Droege, Sam
And.
0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:48.140
Droege, Sam
My popped off a big chunk of that leg that I had loosened up.
0:30:49.430 --> 0:30:51.900
Droege, Sam
But did I leave the femur?
0:30:53.110 --> 0:30:54.290
Droege, Sam
Can be very convenient.
0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.980
Droege, Sam
We did OK, so.
0:30:58.620 --> 0:31:5.10
Droege, Sam
The this is the non impacted side so you can see all this lovely expanded.
0:31:5.990 --> 0:31:21.930
Droege, Sam
Tarsal segments and on the right this section is was gone and on the but the
female femur remains and there's two dark stripes and a shift this around a
little bit that show up there that you just don't see elsewhere.
0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.230
Droege, Sam
The most inconvenient problem though is.
0:31:26.950 --> 0:31:27.550
Droege, Sam
That.
0:31:29.80 --> 0:31:33.630
Droege, Sam
It's hard to see that specimen in a lot of.
0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:37.810
Droege, Sam
Uh, see that feature in a line of the specimens? Because of the way.
0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:39.340
Droege, Sam
It's.
0:31:40.290 --> 0:31:45.490
Droege, Sam
And I'm set-up, so here we go. So there's these two interesting little cool
stripes right there.
0:31:46.660 --> 0:31:49.770
Droege, Sam
That, I believe is the only species that having that.
0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:54.270
Droege, Sam
I'm not sure if that's listed anywhere.
0:31:56.900 --> 0:31:58.840
Droege, Sam
And Frigidaire is interesting to me.
0:32:0.510 --> 0:32:16.270
Droege, Sam
It's, I think mostly associated as one with suspect from the name with or
northern areas, but we saw a whole bunch from the big Brooklyn project in New
York City and I have no idea.
0:32:17.630 --> 0:32:18.980
Droege, Sam
Why they were there?
0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:31.410
Droege, Sam
But they were. So I kind of feel like it's one of the species that we should
expect to expand its range and to take advantage of our habitations if it's in
the middle of Brooklyn.
0:32:32.340 --> 0:32:43.250
Droege, Sam
OK, so now we have a specimens like this where it's just dramatically increased
and density, but it's not.
0:32:43.950 --> 0:32:44.480
Droege, Sam
Umm.
0:32:46.380 --> 0:32:47.370
Droege, Sam
But it's.
0:32:48.980 --> 0:32:52.840
Droege, Sam
Doesn't have the furrows, so let me pull out what we got here.
0:32:53.790 --> 0:32:55.980
Droege, Sam
How is that like a boys? I've got that all down.
0:32:58.80 --> 0:32:59.970
Droege, Sam
So Azelaic appointees is.
0:33:0.700 --> 0:33:7.120
Droege, Sam
One of these species with all black scopal hairs and the female and has
expanded as you will see.
0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:12.220
Droege, Sam
From a tarsal segments.
0:33:13.430 --> 0:33:19.880
Droege, Sam
And is all black and the females, and is nearly so in the the males. But it
does have a bit more.
0:33:20.850 --> 0:33:22.680
Droege, Sam
Here that is light colored.
0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:25.710
Droege, Sam
So we bump this up.
0:33:29.180 --> 0:33:30.800
Droege, Sam
Take a look at the cheek.
0:33:33.30 --> 0:33:52.150
Droege, Sam
Here and so here what we're looking at. Here's the cheek with very sparse
hairs. And then all of a sudden, boom, you have all this long white hair right
before the mandible. And no, there's no double furrows in there. The problem
is, of course, that when the specimen is not.
0:33:53.600 --> 0:34:9.470
Droege, Sam
Super clean or is matted down. You would see that the hairs are mattered there
so you wouldn't be sure whether a furrow was hidden by the the matting. So
that's where sometimes we can't use the specimens that we'd like to use.
0:34:11.770 --> 0:34:14.300
Droege, Sam
Right. Just checking Claire. We're still all there, right?
0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:19.900
Maffei, Clare J
Still all there.
0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.380
Droege, Sam
It's not just talking to myself. OK, good.
0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:29.350
Maffei, Clare J
We have some interesting conversations around the chat, but not but we can kind
of come from the end of class because they're not character related.
0:34:27.700 --> 0:34:29.650
Droege, Sam
OK, OK. Well, just.
0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:31.530
Maffei, Clare J
Geography related.
0:34:30.820 --> 0:34:38.840
Droege, Sam
Yeah, OK. Well, you can write remind me when like what time is it now? How
much? How much?
0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:39.360
Maffei, Clare J
137.
0:34:39.550 --> 0:34:44.750
Droege, Sam
137 OK, alright, well, just give me a heads up when you want us to wrap up.
0:34:45.530 --> 0:34:46.980
Droege, Sam
Alright so.
0:34:47.690 --> 0:34:49.920
Droege, Sam
Otherwise, we'll just keep going through the guide here.
0:34:52.700 --> 0:34:54.0
Droege, Sam
Sorry, keep going back.
0:34:54.380 --> 0:35:10.470
Droege, Sam
Umm these going through the Discover life guides are often a little faster than
going through Mike's guide because we don't do as many side conversations about
how cool the different species are because we're looking at large characters
that split them out. OK, so.
0:35:11.340 --> 0:35:16.150
Droege, Sam
Those are the cheek hair pattern, ones that I'm clicking off. The ones here.
0:35:17.690 --> 0:35:47.800
Droege, Sam
We are going to go back here. We'll revisit number of mandibular teeth at some
point. So here this is another good one that splits out entire set of groups
which is on the legs of front coxy spine. So you can see here that most have a
really well developed spine on the front coxy you can see those bumps right
there on the pictures. But there is a group 8 here in this particular case that
have.
0:35:47.980 --> 0:36:1.270
Droege, Sam
Those spines reduced. Now they're not absolutely gone. In other words, they're
there's not that they they. Frank coxa isn't just smooth, but they're they're
very obviously.
0:36:1.810 --> 0:36:9.350
Droege, Sam
Umm. Demoted to something like bumps or out with the little tubercle, perhaps
on top of it. So let's.
0:36:10.300 --> 0:36:17.850
Droege, Sam
Take a look at what species are involved there, and so we want to go to legs
characters.
0:36:19.170 --> 0:36:20.760
Droege, Sam
And.
0:36:22.350 --> 0:36:25.560
Droege, Sam
From taxi. OK, so if we look at only.
0:36:26.890 --> 0:36:27.780
Droege, Sam
Well, we can.
0:36:28.670 --> 0:36:30.330
Droege, Sam
You can go back and look at.
0:36:31.60 --> 0:36:32.330
Droege, Sam
Here's this longer list.
0:36:33.420 --> 0:36:41.770
Droege, Sam
And a well developed one, because I think our frigida busted frigida one is a
good is a good example sometimes.
0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.690
Droege, Sam
Can, depending on amount of hair.
0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:50.330
Droege, Sam
That the specimen hands, but often how?
0:36:51.250 --> 0:36:53.500
Droege, Sam
Fluffed the specimen has.
0:36:55.250 --> 0:37:4.960
Droege, Sam
Being during the drying process, it can be and also in the legs you know curl
up and all kinds of things. So sometimes it can be hard to see.
0:37:5.870 --> 0:37:6.620
Droege, Sam
The.
0:37:7.300 --> 0:37:8.400
Droege, Sam
Look at those two stripes.
0:37:9.660 --> 0:37:11.320
Droege, Sam
See the.
0:37:13.60 --> 0:37:17.940
Droege, Sam
The Spurs here, so let's try and zoom in a bit.
0:37:18.930 --> 0:37:28.250
Droege, Sam
But so, so, and sometimes the you can just define them with a pen. So here's
one. Here's one of these spines.
0:37:28.980 --> 0:37:54.670
Droege, Sam
And it's quite long, so I have to even change the focus a little bit to see
him. Here's the base and we'll talk about what's going on here. There's these
little in this particular species, these little CT down here at the bottom,
these reddish CT and a very large number, and others will have different
patterns. But here's the spine coming up from the front. Cox, if you have a
specimen that's not well.
0:37:55.710 --> 0:38:11.760
Droege, Sam
Washed or has just really long hair down in this area and is hiding it. You can
take a pin and just rub it back and forth and you should jump into that spine
and be able to detect it. So this is the common state to have this sort of
spine going on.
0:38:12.580 --> 0:38:16.540
Droege, Sam
But there is a group that are associated with.
0:38:17.270 --> 0:38:28.900
Droege, Sam
The species that have very reduced cutting edges on their in the females to
mostly having none and also.
0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.80
Droege, Sam
Umm have.
0:38:32.780 --> 0:38:36.770
Droege, Sam
Yeah, I think they're all in the sub saying perhaps all in the same subgenus.
0:38:38.950 --> 0:38:44.800
Droege, Sam
So if we look at at these, let me get an example here.
0:38:45.730 --> 0:38:48.80
Droege, Sam
And exilus I believe.
0:38:50.110 --> 0:38:59.370
Droege, Sam
These have the reduced ones and I just wanna make sure that I put this last
specimen away.
0:39:1.500 --> 0:39:3.110
Droege, Sam
It's label information on.
0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.550
Droege, Sam
The Frigida is back and now.
0:39:18.690 --> 0:39:22.100
Droege, Sam
We are going to exilus.
0:39:26.130 --> 0:39:28.80
Droege, Sam
Is it the proper way to pronounce its name?
0:39:32.290 --> 0:39:34.100
Droege, Sam
Yeah, slip it over.
0:39:37.740 --> 0:39:39.660
Droege, Sam
And hopefully.
0:39:40.430 --> 0:39:41.660
Droege, Sam
Get a good shot.
0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:44.930
Droege, Sam
The Anderson.
0:39:47.940 --> 0:39:55.750
Droege, Sam
In the front, coxa again sometimes difficult to see things here because it's
pretty busy.
0:40:0.90 --> 0:40:0.800
Droege, Sam
So.
0:40:2.910 --> 0:40:5.700
Droege, Sam
Let's see if I can Orient this a little bit better.
0:40:20.190 --> 0:40:22.870
Droege, Sam
Take a look here.
0:40:31.700 --> 0:40:43.810
Droege, Sam
Tarsal segments and they're slightly expanded to being at least equal to the
tibia behind here. That's another character that we'll see in a second, but
we're trying to see. The problem is we're trying to see.
0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.940
Droege, Sam
Into the area where the coxa is.
0:40:48.660 --> 0:40:51.180
Droege, Sam
So we can look for the lack.
0:40:52.490 --> 0:41:1.160
Droege, Sam
Of so it would be this. Here's the two cops are right here and you can see
there either is no spine or.
0:41:2.490 --> 0:41:6.70
Droege, Sam
I think these are even here. Let's boost that up a little bit more.
0:41:7.820 --> 0:41:19.300
Droege, Sam
For a very low bump, and that possibly is the little tubercle at the top, it
could be, but it's nowhere near that dramatic size so.
0:41:21.30 --> 0:41:21.620
Droege, Sam
I think.
0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:44.600
Droege, Sam
That this is the kind of thing you see, which is, you know, if we were looking
at something that was completely flat, that definitely has projecting up above
the surface. But in this particular case, in comparison to the other species,
it's quite low. Let's see if I can turn this around. And, you know, the other
problem is, of course, the pin is going right through there.
0:41:45.700 --> 0:41:48.180
Droege, Sam
And see if we can see anything else.
0:41:50.10 --> 0:41:56.840
Droege, Sam
In a different angle. Now let me get one more specimen out of anxious and see
if we can see.
0:41:57.660 --> 0:41:59.820
Droege, Sam
That cause that's it's something that.
0:42:0.490 --> 0:42:3.60
Droege, Sam
Takes a little bit of practice I can recall.
0:42:3.750 --> 0:42:5.240
Droege, Sam
Trying to do that myself.
0:42:6.260 --> 0:42:7.440
Droege, Sam
To see.
0:42:9.230 --> 0:42:10.400
Droege, Sam
And.
0:42:11.340 --> 0:42:12.280
Droege, Sam
Here is my.
0:42:11.140 --> 0:42:16.670
Maffei, Clare J
Well, if while you are looking, we can spend a little time with these other
questions while you prep that.
0:42:17.250 --> 0:42:17.540
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:42:17.340 --> 0:42:21.860
Maffei, Clare J
Umm, somebody wanted to know a little bit about the big Brooklyn project
because that's where they live.
0:42:22.740 --> 0:42:24.140
Maffei, Clare J
And.
0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:32.870
Maffei, Clare J
Sean observed the chief and I not have frigida common in the Rockies, New York,
Canada.
0:42:33.750 --> 0:42:36.620
Maffei, Clare J
The and the desert Sky islands.
0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:37.800
Droege, Sam
Ohh.
0:42:39.220 --> 0:42:39.760
Droege, Sam
Do they?
0:42:38.530 --> 0:42:41.860
Maffei, Clare J
And will has collected a couple of Friday in the Puget Sound area.
0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:43.350
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:42:44.130 --> 0:42:44.960
Droege, Sam
So.
0:42:46.620 --> 0:42:48.370
Droege, Sam
It's it's around.
0:42:49.290 --> 0:42:53.30
Droege, Sam
Oh, this might be better. We still have the pin problem.
0:42:54.540 --> 0:43:0.590
Droege, Sam
In this case, the pin is going through there, but I think we have a a bit of a.
0:43:1.720 --> 0:43:10.370
Droege, Sam
Better look at the coxal area, so maybe not great. Look, I'm gonna change the.
I'm gonna update the lighting on this.
0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:14.720
Droege, Sam
Let's go to 200.
0:43:15.980 --> 0:43:16.770
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:43:21.260 --> 0:43:22.630
Droege, Sam
And go back in here.
0:43:23.570 --> 0:43:28.140
Droege, Sam
Again, such a busy area. But when we look at this.
0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:30.530
Droege, Sam
There's.
0:43:34.30 --> 0:43:37.510
Droege, Sam
Umm yeah, you can't see any spine.
0:43:38.730 --> 0:43:41.510
Droege, Sam
It's a problem the lack of the spine is much more.
0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:43.120
Droege, Sam
Problematic.
0:43:43.790 --> 0:43:44.880
Droege, Sam
There's the pin.
0:43:46.550 --> 0:43:50.830
Droege, Sam
Then to see then seeing the spine itself. But.
0:43:52.150 --> 0:43:57.710
Droege, Sam
I think the I think the main point has been made that there is no obvious.
0:43:58.390 --> 0:44:0.420
Droege, Sam
Large spine coming out of the front cockpit.
0:44:1.440 --> 0:44:12.40
Droege, Sam
The Brooklyn project, that's something that I helped the I did the
identifications on for Jared Fowler, who was the person coordinating the
effort.
0:44:12.990 --> 0:44:14.440
Droege, Sam
I'm going to say.
0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:25.610
Droege, Sam
That I don't have perfect understanding, but I believe this was the project
where they took the let's call it an old dock area.
0:44:27.780 --> 0:44:34.550
Droege, Sam
And converted it to some very fancy schmancy park with lots of native plants.
0:44:33.310 --> 0:44:36.240
xrisfg
Ohh that that's Brooklyn Bridge Park.
0:44:37.330 --> 0:44:37.740
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:44:38.450 --> 0:44:39.340
Droege, Sam
Oh, is that?
0:44:40.20 --> 0:44:42.370
Droege, Sam
Not in Brooklyn. OK, where?
0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:46.870
xrisfg
That's that's what you're describing. Yeah, no, it it. Well, that's a long
story that I'm happy to talk about another time, but yes, it's in Brooklyn.
0:44:51.190 --> 0:44:51.510
xrisfg
Yeah.
0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:55.530
xrisfg
Oh yeah, no.
0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:57.590
Droege, Sam
OK, alright. And does that make sense that that it is filled with native plants
and that people paid for some?
0:44:57.670 --> 0:45:1.800
Droege, Sam
Umm. Survey and I was like, what are all these frigida doing there?
0:45:11.260 --> 0:45:11.690
Droege, Sam
Mm-hmm.
0:45:18.630 --> 0:45:19.140
Droege, Sam
Oh good.
0:45:2.990 --> 0:45:26.610
xrisfg
Yeah, it's it's quite a a refuge, a lot of really unusual species have been
found there. You can you can look it up on I naturalist. All the people are
very. It's very heavily traveled and visited. And so there are a lot of
observations from there and I'll paste the link in the chat. It's a really
interesting area to go looking for bugs.
0:45:27.140 --> 0:45:31.380
Droege, Sam
I wonder if they, uh, they have posted pictures of frigida so frigida.
0:45:32.450 --> 0:45:37.460
Droege, Sam
Is kind of conspicuous big. The males have those big, flashy.
0:45:39.790 --> 0:45:40.460
xrisfg
Mm-hmm.
0:45:38.460 --> 0:45:43.930
Droege, Sam
You know, front tarsal segments and stuff. So I don't know, I mean I I so if
anyone's interested.
0:45:44.660 --> 0:46:5.340
Droege, Sam
I can try, you just have to e-mail me and harass me for it. But we have. You
can look it up on discover life on the mapping features. It's all there. But
you have to look species by species. But I could try and pull all the specimens
found there which was two or three years ago. I think it was the year after
they established it.
0:46:6.140 --> 0:46:14.700
Droege, Sam
And you could see if it's which of those show up. Also on I naturalist, I can
tell you that almost none of the lazy blossoms are gonna show up, but.
0:46:16.130 --> 0:46:16.680
Droege, Sam
Anyway.
0:46:17.830 --> 0:46:22.490
Droege, Sam
Cool. And yeah, I'm sure there's other weird.
0:46:23.140 --> 0:46:28.30
Droege, Sam
Weird, cool sunflower bees or whatever else that might be showing up in
Brooklyn Bridge Park.
0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:33.390
Droege, Sam
All right.
0:46:34.720 --> 0:47:5.270
Droege, Sam
Right. So I think we we kind of got that long spines versus no spines or bump
like spines there. So when we're looking at tarsal color, this is pretty
straightforward. We've already seen some examples of the pale yellow, big
bright, pale yellow. But the exilus that we showed, you know where I was, we
were, I was pointing out the expanded tarsal segment. You know that was
somewhere between a pale color and a brown color and it would be well, let's
just see.
0:47:5.380 --> 0:47:12.410
Droege, Sam
It should be scored for both here, so if we do has and dark.
0:47:14.290 --> 0:47:20.720
Droege, Sam
We can see that exilus is there, and if we do, has and pale it is scored.
0:47:24.510 --> 0:47:26.120
Droege, Sam
Yeah, and.
0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:31.900
Droege, Sam
Ohh, maybe it's not scored there for what I would have thought it was scored
for both.
0:47:32.660 --> 0:47:33.870
Droege, Sam
OK, anyway.
0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:39.530
Droege, Sam
Maybe maybe it was the other one. Now I wanna go back and look at.
0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.690
Droege, Sam
Xyla so it says it was.
0:47:44.180 --> 0:47:47.430
Droege, Sam
Dark oops. Wear my specimens. There we go.
0:47:49.490 --> 0:47:55.880
Droege, Sam
Maybe it was its counterpart, or maybe I just need to score it for being pale
too.
0:47:59.380 --> 0:48:0.170
Droege, Sam
We're going back in.
0:48:4.550 --> 0:48:10.430
Droege, Sam
This is he's talking about guides also useful for me to look at.
0:48:12.150 --> 0:48:15.220
Droege, Sam
Specimens and reconsider.
0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:24.930
Droege, Sam
Some of the things. So we're looking at Exilus, it's too dark right now, but if
I bump up the magnification might make it more profitable.
0:48:29.90 --> 0:48:37.0
Droege, Sam
So here are the here the here the segments. This is the backside and one of the
features is that they're relatively wide compared to.
0:48:38.30 --> 0:48:51.450
Droege, Sam
What's his counterpart? It's named Campanelli, which I think is all dark. I
think this needs to be scored for being pale. This is the backside and the
upper side is the other way. But.
0:48:52.290 --> 0:48:59.0
Droege, Sam
In my mind, when looking at it so I'm not using the guides cause I've that's
one that is common enough.
0:49:0.470 --> 0:49:9.910
Droege, Sam
So alright, I will score it for both and now I am just talking to myself. OK.
So in any case.
0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:19.210
Droege, Sam
The there are more specimens that are dark than light, and we can go back to
the other guide here.
0:49:21.950 --> 0:49:28.20
Droege, Sam
And take a look at color. So. Well, there's quite a few that are scored for
pale too.
0:49:29.350 --> 0:49:34.260
Droege, Sam
And so it's pretty straightforward is whatever the color is gonna be.
0:49:34.870 --> 0:49:38.40
Droege, Sam
But now I'm wondering about my exilia scoring.
0:49:38.940 --> 0:49:53.100
Droege, Sam
So then the next one within the front page of the guide, which has things that
are most useful, are the outline of the parallel medium Ridge. So this requires
a little bit of.
0:49:53.180 --> 0:49:57.440
Droege, Sam
Uh, ohf explanations. So let's pull up.
0:49:58.80 --> 0:50:14.50
Droege, Sam
That's what perhaps Revis at this point, as to what you're looking at, because
there's a couple things going on here. One is that the dominant feature, let's
pull up that brevis specimen again, I think.
0:50:15.260 --> 0:50:16.640
Droege, Sam
The dominant feature.
0:50:17.510 --> 0:50:19.840
Droege, Sam
Of the abdomen.
0:50:20.950 --> 0:50:23.840
Droege, Sam
On T7 is a flange.
0:50:26.990 --> 0:50:32.710
Droege, Sam
And we go into detail on the explain, although I'm not sure people use the
explain button that much.
0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:38.800
Droege, Sam
Anyway, here we go.
0:50:42.20 --> 0:50:43.380
Droege, Sam
We have a mail here.
0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:47.870
Droege, Sam
Yeah.
0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:49.460
Maffei, Clare J
What species is that?
0:50:49.770 --> 0:50:50.870
Droege, Sam
This is brevis.
0:50:52.690 --> 0:50:54.10
Droege, Sam
OK so.
0:50:55.620 --> 0:51:19.970
Droege, Sam
What you're looking at here, under normal circumstances you would say OK,
here's T7, and here's the rim of T7, right? So here's this notch. That's what
we're talking about while out of species have a notch and T7 the most. And
brevis, you can see the brevis is a good one. You can see there's a bunch of
teeth here. So we have another character.
0:51:21.150 --> 0:51:32.660
Droege, Sam
That is that the there's no distinct knots, but it's jagged like there's
there's projections and things. And then the last one, which will also see, is
that the tip in.
0:51:39.90 --> 0:51:40.400
Droege, Sam
Quite, quite different.
0:51:41.480 --> 0:51:41.880
Droege, Sam
But.
0:51:42.670 --> 0:51:50.80
Droege, Sam
It's not of the rim. So what we're looking at is not the rim, but a flange
above the rim. So.
0:51:52.300 --> 0:52:4.210
Droege, Sam
Here you know shift now the perspective. So fear heretically you can see both
the rim and this flange because the rim is also useful so.
0:52:5.220 --> 0:52:17.350
Droege, Sam
Umm, in terms of characters, but now we'll see them later. They're a little bit
more probably another day, a little trickier to visit.
0:52:19.860 --> 0:52:33.970
Droege, Sam
So to see the true rim, you have to flip the specimen over. So now remember,
here's the character. These are the hairs that are oppressed and show up on
the.
0:52:35.410 --> 0:53:8.840
Droege, Sam
On the top of the the dorsal part of T7. This is the flange, the edge of the
flange that we're looking at is nuts. There's a notch at a within a bleak
angle. I'm going to change the focus so there we go. So here's what looked like
the rim. OK, it's right there. But this is actually not the true rim. It's just
a flange above the rim. So this is the true rim down here. And we're looking at
it straight on. So we can't see some of the characters that we're going to look
at.
0:53:9.180 --> 0:53:12.760
Droege, Sam
But this true rim here has teeth.
0:53:13.620 --> 0:53:23.50
Droege, Sam
On some species and no teeth on others. And they're small, like that's a tooth
right there and not expecting you to see these. They're not. And a good vision,
but.
0:53:23.890 --> 0:53:24.300
Droege, Sam
It.
0:53:24.940 --> 0:53:43.350
Droege, Sam
People who start out working on magically spend a lot of time trying to look at
these and find these teeth here, but I think the important first step here is
to know that this big feature this, you know, dominant feature is not the rim,
it's this flange. And when we talk about that, the Ridge.
0:53:43.910 --> 0:53:45.120
Droege, Sam
Yeah, and there.
0:53:45.970 --> 0:53:48.390
Droege, Sam
Umm yeah.
0:53:49.270 --> 0:54:4.820
Droege, Sam
Umm, so is. It's not. It's not the true rim, but we try to make that
distinction. So we were looking at the notch part, so that was pretty clear. So
let's look at and we talked about the jagged it turns out when we flip over
here.
0:54:5.630 --> 0:54:6.410
Droege, Sam
To.
0:54:7.190 --> 0:54:8.90
Droege, Sam
Whoops, one more.
0:54:9.290 --> 0:54:11.620
Droege, Sam
If we go to abdomen.
0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:16.800
Droege, Sam
Back to this character. Hopefully I got rid of everything else.
0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:20.680
Droege, Sam
And we look at.
0:54:21.370 --> 0:54:35.10
Droege, Sam
That only has, well, we can look at all of them. That only has these. There's a
list, and then there's a list of what are. Oops. I'm must have something else.
0:54:35.810 --> 0:54:39.250
Droege, Sam
Maybe not listed there I think.
0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:42.970
Droege, Sam
No, maybe not.
0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:47.270
Droege, Sam
Returned down and relativa.
0:54:48.860 --> 0:54:57.860
Droege, Sam
Yeah, hang on. I've got. I've got a orphan check mark somewhere because that
list looks interrupt. Look at that.
0:54:58.590 --> 0:54:59.120
Droege, Sam
Mad.
0:54:59.980 --> 0:55:3.300
Droege, Sam
OK, back to our list here.
0:55:4.630 --> 0:55:7.900
Droege, Sam
For Umm. Yeah, so if we.
0:55:8.580 --> 0:55:11.680
Droege, Sam
Look at what now this will be a more complete list.
0:55:12.710 --> 0:55:43.220
Droege, Sam
So most pieces have this divot out. There is a group of species here that when
we look at the only has a con. Vex one. If you look at this list. So you know
anything about distributions, these are all with the exception of sculpture.
Ellis really rare species. So these are species that either have only one or
two or have never, never seen. With the exception of Ruby, which I just ran
into a slot of them in.
0:55:43.420 --> 0:55:44.270
Droege, Sam
The Sandhills.
0:55:45.410 --> 0:55:58.580
Droege, Sam
So which is interesting. I think a lot of these are specialists and I think a
lot of the life history isn't well known either. Maybe call like make it Kylie
sculpture Ellis and introduce species. So it's been around for.
0:55:59.530 --> 0:56:4.490
Droege, Sam
Now, about 20 years and it's becoming quite common, takes over Carpenter bee
nests.
0:56:5.500 --> 0:56:7.650
Droege, Sam
So let's take a look at Ruby. This is.
0:56:9.710 --> 0:56:10.460
Droege, Sam
A.
0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:14.460
Droege, Sam
Character is nicely obvious.
0:56:16.40 --> 0:56:17.70
Droege, Sam
Gonna take out?
0:56:19.780 --> 0:56:21.110
Droege, Sam
And previous specimen again.
0:56:23.540 --> 0:56:24.890
Droege, Sam
Are we doing for time, Claire?
0:56:31.350 --> 0:56:31.680
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:33.930
Maffei, Clare J
It's 159, but I have nothing going on after this so.
0:56:35.150 --> 0:56:35.770
Maffei, Clare J
The last.
0:56:34.430 --> 0:56:38.880
Droege, Sam
Right. Well, I'll show this and then we'll we'll stop and we can take
questions. If there are any.
0:56:39.310 --> 0:56:39.660
Maffei, Clare J
OK.
0:56:43.380 --> 0:56:51.310
Droege, Sam
Great. So and because there is more to do like the what the females for all
these?
0:56:53.490 --> 0:56:54.440
Droege, Sam
Thanks so.
0:56:56.240 --> 0:56:58.270
Droege, Sam
Here is.
0:56:59.510 --> 0:57:1.530
Droege, Sam
Let me just turn this a little bit more.
0:57:8.330 --> 0:57:9.560
Droege, Sam
Maybe kind of Ruby?
0:57:12.910 --> 0:57:14.910
Droege, Sam
Wait, is this a male or female?
0:57:20.990 --> 0:57:22.860
Droege, Sam
OK. Is the mail.
0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:28.660
Droege, Sam
Since it bizarrely different species group.
0:57:31.790 --> 0:57:33.200
Droege, Sam
Than all the others.
0:57:38.500 --> 0:57:39.540
Droege, Sam
Right. So.
0:57:42.430 --> 0:57:43.790
Droege, Sam
We're looking at.
0:57:46.940 --> 0:57:51.440
Droege, Sam
T6 here's the flange. We're not going to look underneath it for the true rim.
0:57:52.210 --> 0:57:52.720
Droege, Sam
But.
0:57:53.430 --> 0:58:3.700
Droege, Sam
If you recall and the other one, there's it's a wider and it comes to it has a
clear notch in the middle. This is the opposite, so it's con.
0:58:4.520 --> 0:58:21.370
Droege, Sam
Vex. And there's it's it's pretty much got a smooth outline in. There's no
sense of a divot or anything in there. So that's a nice character. That's why
these are all on the front page. These are characters.
0:58:22.550 --> 0:58:38.630
Droege, Sam
That usually are relatively obvious. Separating out big groups and after a
while you you learn when you scan your specimen after first looking at like, Oh
my gosh I that's that group that has the con convex.
0:58:38.710 --> 0:58:38.960
Droege, Sam
Yes.
0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:49.10
Droege, Sam
So flange on T7 so I'm gonna go right there and jump to that to start my ID process.
0:58:50.200 --> 0:59:22.710
Droege, Sam
So I'm just go to the guide. So yeah, just to talk about that in a way. So
after a while you, you begin to understand and memorize at least these
character groups and go like, oh, that's an unusual. You look at your specimen
go like, ohh that's that unusual T6 thing and you, you know, instead of going
trying to answer all the questions above, although you almost always would put
in what region you're working in you would you could then just scroll right
down to.
0:59:23.310 --> 0:59:32.900
Droege, Sam
This rounded one and you just lopped off a whole bunch of specimens I put in a
city, too.
0:59:34.260 --> 0:59:36.430
Droege, Sam
In Maryland, just for whatever reason.
0:59:37.740 --> 0:59:42.230
Droege, Sam
I don't know where I'm running into some bandwidth problems here.
0:59:44.540 --> 0:59:45.390
Droege, Sam
Clear you still there?
0:59:47.910 --> 0:59:48.960
Maffei, Clare J
Yep, we're still here.
0:59:49.370 --> 0:59:49.790
Droege, Sam
OK.
0:59:50.910 --> 0:59:54.780
Droege, Sam
Not sure why discover life is.
0:59:56.590 --> 1:0:7.580
Droege, Sam
Umm not sending me back a list of species, so maybe it's on discovery life.
Anyway, I'll stop there and see if there's any questions.
1:0:10.50 --> 1:0:14.940
Maffei, Clare J
Nothing in the chat so far, but feel free to unmute.
1:0:20.470 --> 1:0:22.200
Droege, Sam
So, Umm, Claire, do you have anything?
1:0:33.530 --> 1:0:34.110
Maffei, Clare J
Ohh.
1:0:23.240 --> 1:0:34.390
Droege, Sam
I might be locked up here. Do you have anything to say regarding the the talks
and Dan's website? Is it all back up and the same as it was?
1:0:34.990 --> 1:0:43.470
Maffei, Clare J
Yep, everything on that seems to be back up. I think maybe, Umm, we didn't get
Dan. I didn't get the last.
1:0:44.150 --> 1:0:51.820
Maffei, Clare J
Videos up, but after what I pushed today after I download this, Umm, we should
be up to date on.
1:0:52.600 --> 1:0:56.180
Maffei, Clare J
That, and I think also the transcripts will be there somewhere.
1:0:58.350 --> 1:1:1.180
Droege, Sam
Yeah, looks like my compute my Chrome.
1:1:3.280 --> 1:1:3.650
Maffei, Clare J
Umm.
1:1:1.920 --> 1:1:13.140
Droege, Sam
Rose up, so can't see anything more, but anyway, I just emphasize the the
passel nature of these matrix guides.
1:1:14.220 --> 1:1:18.90
Droege, Sam
Unlike this, the step by step process in a lot of the.
1:1:18.760 --> 1:1:20.330
Droege, Sam
Traditional dichotomous keys.
1:1:22.700 --> 1:1:23.710
Droege, Sam
Well.
1:1:24.370 --> 1:1:25.470
Maffei, Clare J
Yeah, no questions.
1:1:25.180 --> 1:1:27.830
Droege, Sam
Doesn't sound like there's anything else to talk about.
1:1:39.190 --> 1:1:40.200
Droege, Sam
Yeah, well.
1:1:29.80 --> 1:1:41.250
Maffei, Clare J
Umm, no, but maybe next week we'll have Mike back. We'll have a key and maybe
we can. We'll get to return to some of those characteristics that you were
doing here and whatever, whatever stuff make always throws in.
1:1:41.690 --> 1:1:54.770
Droege, Sam
Right. Right. Yeah. No, he's he's lovely in that. He's often taking very
different approaches. And so we'll be incorporating a lot of his couplets for
species back into discover. Life guides, which is again a nice thing that you
can.
1:1:55.550 --> 1:1:59.590
Droege, Sam
Just throw a a character in whenever you want.
1:2:1.370 --> 1:2:1.660
Maffei, Clare J
Thanks.
1:2:0.910 --> 1:2:11.970
Droege, Sam
And as usual, I would just say if you have any observations like ohh I don't, I
think this scoring is incorrect or needs to be expanded. Let us know and we can
make those changes too.
1:2:12.680 --> 1:2:12.940
Maffei, Clare J
Yeah.
1:2:16.810 --> 1:2:17.380
Droege, Sam
All right.
1:2:15.970 --> 1:2:19.100
Maffei, Clare J
OK. Well, we'll see you all next week.
1:2:19.770 --> 1:2:21.20
Droege, Sam
All right. Thanks, Claire.
1:2:24.760 --> 1:2:25.490
Droege, Sam
By everybody.